Buyer's Remorse
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wrote on 7 Nov 2020, 12:31 last edited by
@Jolly said in Buyer's Remorse:
There will be NO honeymoon.
Politically, you're right. With the House being so tight, and with a Senate presumably held by the GOP, he's going to have a rough go of it.
Socially, I disagree. The press and our betters in the entertainment industry are slobbering all over this, and it'll last for a while. John Legend was singing "Georgia On My Mind" last night. We can expect another 2-4 months of this fellating.
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wrote on 7 Nov 2020, 12:46 last edited by
What we’ll never have is seller’s remorse.
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wrote on 7 Nov 2020, 16:21 last edited by
All those people who complained about Obama's lack of class in making occasional comments during Trump's presidency are going to freaking love how Trump takes a back seat during Biden's.
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wrote on 7 Nov 2020, 16:40 last edited by
@Jolly said in Buyer's Remorse:
At what point do many Biden voters slap their heads and mutter, "My God, what did I do?" .
Never?
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wrote on 7 Nov 2020, 19:24 last edited by Renauda 11 Jul 2020, 19:26
Unfortunately, I do not for a moment believe that the world has seen the end of Trumpism in the the USA. It bears too many similarities to Argentina's Peronism to go away quietly or permanently. The past four we have been introduced to its populism. We barely got a glimpse at its inherent authoritarianism. That will come in time.
In any case I am glad the loathesome son of bitch, Trump, is out of office.
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Unfortunately, I do not for a moment believe that the world has seen the end of Trumpism in the the USA. It bears too many similarities to Argentina's Peronism to go away quietly or permanently. The past four we have been introduced to its populism. We barely got a glimpse at its inherent authoritarianism. That will come in time.
In any case I am glad the loathesome son of bitch, Trump, is out of office.
wrote on 7 Nov 2020, 19:29 last edited by Catseye3 11 Jul 2020, 19:34@Renauda said in Buyer's Remorse:
Unfortunately, I do not for a moment believe that the world has seen the end of Trumpism in the the USA.
No, that is true. It will take many years to remove that odor, and there is a very real risk that in doing so we will lean too far in the opposite direction.
And greetings to you, Renauda. Believe it or not, I thought of you recently; would've liked to hear your voice through all of this.
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wrote on 7 Nov 2020, 19:29 last edited by Larry 11 Jul 2020, 23:41
Funny how you see "Trumpism"as you like to call it authoritarian, when the truth is the left are the ones being authoritarians.
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Unfortunately, I do not for a moment believe that the world has seen the end of Trumpism in the the USA. It bears too many similarities to Argentina's Peronism to go away quietly or permanently. The past four we have been introduced to its populism. We barely got a glimpse at its inherent authoritarianism. That will come in time.
In any case I am glad the loathesome son of bitch, Trump, is out of office.
wrote on 7 Nov 2020, 19:39 last edited by@Renauda said in Buyer's Remorse:
Unfortunately, I do not for a moment believe that the world has seen the end of Trumpism in the the USA. It bears too many similarities to Argentina's Peronism to go away quietly or permanently. The past four we have been introduced to its populism. We barely got a glimpse at its inherent authoritarianism. That will come in time.
In any case I am glad the loathesome son of bitch, Trump, is out of office.
Just another tedious expression of hatred by a normal human towards Trump. But I think you underestimate the right. What's your preferred solution? Populism is a word I've learned to be wary of. Lots of us haven't given much thought to the relative weight of it between the two parties and their ideas.
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wrote on 7 Nov 2020, 20:14 last edited by
I expect Mr. Trump to start a new cable network devoted to Mr. Biden's impeachment
It will keep the msm alive
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@Renauda said in Buyer's Remorse:
Unfortunately, I do not for a moment believe that the world has seen the end of Trumpism in the the USA.
No, that is true. It will take many years to remove that odor, and there is a very real risk that in doing so we will lean too far in the opposite direction.
And greetings to you, Renauda. Believe it or not, I thought of you recently; would've liked to hear your voice through all of this.
wrote on 7 Nov 2020, 20:41 last edited by Renauda 11 Jul 2020, 20:49Greetings to you as well. This election has been more than just a little entertaining from where I sit albeit the lens through which I view it is quite different from you and your compatriots. Suffice to say, I chose to wait until a winner was announced before making comment.
I agree there is a risk that elements in the Democrat camp pushing too far the other direction will further exacerbate the division that characterizes the US at the present. There are fringe elements in every political party the world over that need to be reigned in or face expulsion. With teh Democrats much of this is because those fringe elements (or better, Jacobins) have abandoned working class folks and issues and taken up instead with various subculture and identity interests that have in varying degrees at one time or another faced discrimination or have been excluded. As an aside, this revisionism is not exclusive to the Democrat Party but to the Left pretty much everywhere in the world at present. It has become acute in the US because its political tradition does not accommodate a third party alternative to govern the country.
The Democrat Party been thus increasingly divided against itself since before the Reagan era. It briefly united under Clinton only split again after G W Bush's defeat of Gore. It has remained split ever since. The DNC will have to face this fact during the next four years and rebuild itself as a firmly moderate centrist party if it ever hopes to compete with its opposite number in years to come. I am optimistic that if nothing else this election has laid bare that fact to the DNC and that it will work to erase the damaging effects that the Jacobins in its midst have and are causing.
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Greetings to you as well. This election has been more than just a little entertaining from where I sit albeit the lens through which I view it is quite different from you and your compatriots. Suffice to say, I chose to wait until a winner was announced before making comment.
I agree there is a risk that elements in the Democrat camp pushing too far the other direction will further exacerbate the division that characterizes the US at the present. There are fringe elements in every political party the world over that need to be reigned in or face expulsion. With teh Democrats much of this is because those fringe elements (or better, Jacobins) have abandoned working class folks and issues and taken up instead with various subculture and identity interests that have in varying degrees at one time or another faced discrimination or have been excluded. As an aside, this revisionism is not exclusive to the Democrat Party but to the Left pretty much everywhere in the world at present. It has become acute in the US because its political tradition does not accommodate a third party alternative to govern the country.
The Democrat Party been thus increasingly divided against itself since before the Reagan era. It briefly united under Clinton only split again after G W Bush's defeat of Gore. It has remained split ever since. The DNC will have to face this fact during the next four years and rebuild itself as a firmly moderate centrist party if it ever hopes to compete with its opposite number in years to come. I am optimistic that if nothing else this election has laid bare that fact to the DNC and that it will work to erase the damaging effects that the Jacobins in its midst have and are causing.
wrote on 8 Nov 2020, 00:32 last edited by@Renauda Good to "see" you here. Always enjoy your interesting posts.
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wrote on 8 Nov 2020, 01:13 last edited by Jolly 11 Aug 2020, 01:13
@jon-nyc said in Buyer's Remorse:
What
I'llnever have is seller’s remorse.FIFY.
There are seventy million people who voted for Trump.
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@jon-nyc said in Buyer's Remorse:
What
I'llnever have is seller’s remorse.FIFY.
There are seventy million people who voted for Trump.
wrote on 8 Nov 2020, 01:14 last edited by -
Funny how you see "Trumpism"as you like to call it authoritarian, when the truth is the left are the ones being authoritarians.
wrote on 8 Nov 2020, 01:15 last edited by@Larry said in Buyer's Remorse:
Funny how you see "Trumpism"as you like to call it authoritarian, when the truth is the left are the ones being authoritarians.
Actually, fascist.
I don't remember any Trump supporters threatening the White House receptionist with never working again.
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Greetings to you as well. This election has been more than just a little entertaining from where I sit albeit the lens through which I view it is quite different from you and your compatriots. Suffice to say, I chose to wait until a winner was announced before making comment.
I agree there is a risk that elements in the Democrat camp pushing too far the other direction will further exacerbate the division that characterizes the US at the present. There are fringe elements in every political party the world over that need to be reigned in or face expulsion. With teh Democrats much of this is because those fringe elements (or better, Jacobins) have abandoned working class folks and issues and taken up instead with various subculture and identity interests that have in varying degrees at one time or another faced discrimination or have been excluded. As an aside, this revisionism is not exclusive to the Democrat Party but to the Left pretty much everywhere in the world at present. It has become acute in the US because its political tradition does not accommodate a third party alternative to govern the country.
The Democrat Party been thus increasingly divided against itself since before the Reagan era. It briefly united under Clinton only split again after G W Bush's defeat of Gore. It has remained split ever since. The DNC will have to face this fact during the next four years and rebuild itself as a firmly moderate centrist party if it ever hopes to compete with its opposite number in years to come. I am optimistic that if nothing else this election has laid bare that fact to the DNC and that it will work to erase the damaging effects that the Jacobins in its midst have and are causing.
wrote on 8 Nov 2020, 01:18 last edited by@Renauda said in Buyer's Remorse:
Greetings to you as well. This election has been more than just a little entertaining from where I sit albeit the lens through which I view it is quite different from you and your compatriots. Suffice to say, I chose to wait until a winner was announced before making comment.
I agree there is a risk that elements in the Democrat camp pushing too far the other direction will further exacerbate the division that characterizes the US at the present. There are fringe elements in every political party the world over that need to be reigned in or face expulsion. With teh Democrats much of this is because those fringe elements (or better, Jacobins) have abandoned working class folks and issues and taken up instead with various subculture and identity interests that have in varying degrees at one time or another faced discrimination or have been excluded. As an aside, this revisionism is not exclusive to the Democrat Party but to the Left pretty much everywhere in the world at present. It has become acute in the US because its political tradition does not accommodate a third party alternative to govern the country.
The Democrat Party been thus increasingly divided against itself since before the Reagan era. It briefly united under Clinton only split again after G W Bush's defeat of Gore. It has remained split ever since. The DNC will have to face this fact during the next four years and rebuild itself as a firmly moderate centrist party if it ever hopes to compete with its opposite number in years to come. I am optimistic that if nothing else this election has laid bare that fact to the DNC and that it will work to erase the damaging effects that the Jacobins in its midst have and are causing.
Guess again.
Schumer made the comment today, that if the Dems could take the two Senate seats in Georgia, the Demonrats could change the world.
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wrote on 8 Nov 2020, 01:33 last edited by
@George-K said in Buyer's Remorse:
@Jolly said in Buyer's Remorse:
seventy million people who voted for Trump.
Chumps
There are over 75 million people who voted for Biden.
If you prefer, you can rephrase as “there are 75 million people who voted against Trump.” -
@George-K said in Buyer's Remorse:
@Jolly said in Buyer's Remorse:
seventy million people who voted for Trump.
Chumps
There are over 75 million people who voted for Biden.
If you prefer, you can rephrase as “there are 75 million people who voted against Trump.”wrote on 8 Nov 2020, 01:35 last edited by George K 11 Aug 2020, 01:36@Axtremus said in Buyer's Remorse:
There are over 75 million people who voted for Biden.
If you prefer, you can rephrase as “there are 75 million people who voted against Trump.”Or, if you prefer, you can rephrase as Biden refers to 48.2% of the voters in this country as chumps.
Unity!
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wrote on 8 Nov 2020, 01:40 last edited by
There is no such thing as a unifier in politics. So if anybody ever tells you that their favorite politician is more of a unifier than yours, you can go ahead and tell them that they are full of shit.
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There is no such thing as a unifier in politics. So if anybody ever tells you that their favorite politician is more of a unifier than yours, you can go ahead and tell them that they are full of shit.
wrote on 8 Nov 2020, 01:41 last edited by@Horace said in Buyer's Remorse:
There is no such thing as a unifier in politics. So if anybody ever tells you that their favorite politician is more of a unifier than yours, you can go ahead and tell them that they are full of shit.
You know, that's a pretty profound comment. It's all about winning.
As Jolly frequently says, "Politics ain't beanbag."
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@Horace said in Buyer's Remorse:
There is no such thing as a unifier in politics. So if anybody ever tells you that their favorite politician is more of a unifier than yours, you can go ahead and tell them that they are full of shit.
You know, that's a pretty profound comment. It's all about winning.
As Jolly frequently says, "Politics ain't beanbag."
wrote on 8 Nov 2020, 02:03 last edited by@George-K said in Buyer's Remorse:
@Horace said in Buyer's Remorse:
There is no such thing as a unifier in politics. So if anybody ever tells you that their favorite politician is more of a unifier than yours, you can go ahead and tell them that they are full of shit.
You know, that's a pretty profound comment. It's all about winning.
As Jolly frequently says, "Politics ain't beanbag."
So sad, if you have had any hope for a unifying politician at all, it seems Trump completely purged that out of you in the last four years.
Perk up. So what if your preferred candidate lost this time around. You know the winner is not that bad, don’t you?