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[LuFins Dad]

Yes, as was shown on George's graph and tacitly acknowledged in my reply that deaths would likely increase within 2 weeks...

[LuFins Dad]

The interesting thing is that the hospitalization wave started around 6 weeks ago, so we should have seen a corresponding increase in deaths, but we haven’t to this point.

I have no doubt that we will see an increase, but am thinking it will be well less than proportionate to the hospitalization rate and far less than the increase in case counts.

[George K]

I can’t find the article at the moment, but supposedly some asshats snuck into an ICU with cameras to try to prove that they really weren’t full.

[Jolly]

@George-K said in 104,000:

I can’t find the article at the moment, but supposedly some asshats snuck into an ICU with cameras to try to prove that they really weren’t full.

Go to jail. Go directly to jail, do not pass Go.

[Loki]

Regular beds can easily be flipped to an ICU bed. I have no idea why this is never mentioned.

[Copper]

I thought the problem was the additional equipment associated with an ICU bed - specifically a ventilator.

[LuFins Dad]

@Copper said in 104,000:

I thought the problem was the additional equipment associated with an ICU bed - specifically a ventilator.

I’m pretty sure they are avoiding ventilators at all cost and finding that they are causing more harm than good? Plus we’ve now got gadzooks numbers of ventilators....

[George K]

@Copper said in 104,000:

I thought the problem was the additional equipment associated with an ICU bed - specifically a ventilator.

And staffing. You can’t have one nurse tending to a dozen patients.

[Jolly]

@Loki said in 104,000:

Regular beds can easily be flipped to an ICU bed. I have no idea why this is never mentioned.

Bless your heart, you don't know what you're talking about.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Jolly said in 104,000:

Bless your heart

LOL

[Loki]

@Jolly said in 104,000:

@Loki said in 104,000:

Regular beds can easily be flipped to an ICU bed. I have no idea why this is never mentioned.

Bless your heart, you don't know what you're talking about.

So you are arguing that hospitals in general are at or near capacity and can’t take on new Covid patientsas a widespread issue?

Good luck with that.

I agree that finding enough clinicians will be an operational but doable headache.

[Jolly]

@Loki said in 104,000:

@Jolly said in 104,000:

@Loki said in 104,000:

Regular beds can easily be flipped to an ICU bed. I have no idea why this is never mentioned.

Bless your heart, you don't know what you're talking about.

So you are arguing that hospitals in general are at or near capacity and can’t take on new Covid patientsas a widespread issue?

Good luck with that.

I'm not arguing. I know what I'm talking about.

You don't just wave a magic wand and create ICU beds. You can wave a magic wand and convert Med/Surg units, even cardiac units to COVID units, but not ICU units.

And ICU nurses ain't floor nurses. The gap is wide and deep.

[Loki]

@Jolly said in 104,000:

@Loki said in 104,000:

@Jolly said in 104,000:

@Loki said in 104,000:

Regular beds can easily be flipped to an ICU bed. I have no idea why this is never mentioned.

Bless your heart, you don't know what you're talking about.

So you are arguing that hospitals in general are at or near capacity and can’t take on new Covid patientsas a widespread issue?

Good luck with that.

I'm not arguing. I know what I'm talking about.

You don't just wave a magic wand and create ICU beds. You can wave a magic wand and convert Med/Surg units, even cardiac units to COVID units, but not ICU units.

And ICU nurses ain't floor nurses. The gap is wide and deep.

Never mind. We are talking past each other. I know what a traditional ICU bed is and it’s too bad you thought I was being literal about expanding that. Seriously, I’m done with this.