104,000
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wrote on 8 Nov 2020, 02:28 last edited by
This wave is likely to crest and recede before President-Elect Biden takes over.
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wrote on 12 Nov 2020, 15:41 last edited by
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wrote on 12 Nov 2020, 15:45 last edited by
What I find disconcerting about these successive waves is each one is broader than the last.
The first one was basically NY. (simplifying a bit).
The second was sun-belt driven.
This one seems more evenly distributed, and more nation wide.
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wrote on 12 Nov 2020, 15:51 last edited by
There’s no question the daily deaths are going to increase, that just follows from the hospitalizations by about two weeks. The real question will be by how much.
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wrote on 12 Nov 2020, 15:53 last edited by
The seven day average of cases is double what we saw in August. Might the deaths double from what we saw in August? Not an unreasonable assumption unless you think our standards of care have improved and/or the virus has mutated since August.
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wrote on 12 Nov 2020, 18:38 last edited by
The seven day average of cases is double what we saw in August. Might the deaths double from what we saw in August? Not an unreasonable assumption unless you think our standards of care have improved and/or the virus has mutated since August.
Hospitalizations are the numbers we want to watch as a predictive indicator for deaths, not total case counts. Testing has been increasing dramatically in an attempt to catch more asymptomatic cases to prevent spread. A higher percentage of these new cases will be asymptomatic or mild. We also need to remember there is about a 2 week latency from positive tests to hospitalizations and another 2 weeks to fatalities. So look at the case counts from October 15th and the Hospitalizations from the 29th to compare with today’s death totals..
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wrote on 12 Nov 2020, 20:09 last edited by
Hospitalizations are at an all-time high.
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wrote on 12 Nov 2020, 21:36 last edited by
Yes, as was shown on George's graph and tacitly acknowledged in my reply that deaths would likely increase within 2 weeks...
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wrote on 13 Nov 2020, 15:56 last edited by
The interesting thing is that the hospitalization wave started around 6 weeks ago, so we should have seen a corresponding increase in deaths, but we haven’t to this point.
I have no doubt that we will see an increase, but am thinking it will be well less than proportionate to the hospitalization rate and far less than the increase in case counts.
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wrote on 13 Nov 2020, 16:11 last edited by
I can’t find the article at the moment, but supposedly some asshats snuck into an ICU with cameras to try to prove that they really weren’t full.
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I can’t find the article at the moment, but supposedly some asshats snuck into an ICU with cameras to try to prove that they really weren’t full.
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wrote on 13 Nov 2020, 16:54 last edited by
Regular beds can easily be flipped to an ICU bed. I have no idea why this is never mentioned.
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wrote on 13 Nov 2020, 17:26 last edited by
I thought the problem was the additional equipment associated with an ICU bed - specifically a ventilator.
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I thought the problem was the additional equipment associated with an ICU bed - specifically a ventilator.
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I thought the problem was the additional equipment associated with an ICU bed - specifically a ventilator.
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Regular beds can easily be flipped to an ICU bed. I have no idea why this is never mentioned.
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wrote on 13 Nov 2020, 19:00 last edited by
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wrote on 13 Nov 2020, 19:13 last edited by Loki
Regular beds can easily be flipped to an ICU bed. I have no idea why this is never mentioned.
Bless your heart, you don't know what you're talking about.
So you are arguing that hospitals in general are at or near capacity and can’t take on new Covid patientsas a widespread issue?
Good luck with that.
I agree that finding enough clinicians will be an operational but doable headache.
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Regular beds can easily be flipped to an ICU bed. I have no idea why this is never mentioned.
Bless your heart, you don't know what you're talking about.
So you are arguing that hospitals in general are at or near capacity and can’t take on new Covid patientsas a widespread issue?
Good luck with that.
I agree that finding enough clinicians will be an operational but doable headache.
wrote on 13 Nov 2020, 19:16 last edited byRegular beds can easily be flipped to an ICU bed. I have no idea why this is never mentioned.
Bless your heart, you don't know what you're talking about.
So you are arguing that hospitals in general are at or near capacity and can’t take on new Covid patientsas a widespread issue?
Good luck with that.
I'm not arguing. I know what I'm talking about.
You don't just wave a magic wand and create ICU beds. You can wave a magic wand and convert Med/Surg units, even cardiac units to COVID units, but not ICU units.
And ICU nurses ain't floor nurses. The gap is wide and deep.
