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[Jolly]

@jon-nyc said in 104,000:

Holy shit 132k new cases yesterday.

Dude, Biden is appointing a task force. They meet Monday.

Link to video

[jon-nyc]

This wave is likely to crest and recede before President-Elect Biden takes over.

[Jolly]

@jon-nyc said in 104,000:

This wave is likely to crest and recede before President-Elect Biden takes over.

Thank God for Trump, eh?

[George K]

[jon-nyc]

What I find disconcerting about these successive waves is each one is broader than the last.

The first one was basically NY. (simplifying a bit).

The second was sun-belt driven.

This one seems more evenly distributed, and more nation wide.

[LuFins Dad]

There’s no question the daily deaths are going to increase, that just follows from the hospitalizations by about two weeks. The real question will be by how much.

[jon-nyc]

The seven day average of cases is double what we saw in August. Might the deaths double from what we saw in August? Not an unreasonable assumption unless you think our standards of care have improved and/or the virus has mutated since August.

[LuFins Dad]

@jon-nyc said in 104,000:

The seven day average of cases is double what we saw in August. Might the deaths double from what we saw in August? Not an unreasonable assumption unless you think our standards of care have improved and/or the virus has mutated since August.

Hospitalizations are the numbers we want to watch as a predictive indicator for deaths, not total case counts. Testing has been increasing dramatically in an attempt to catch more asymptomatic cases to prevent spread. A higher percentage of these new cases will be asymptomatic or mild. We also need to remember there is about a 2 week latency from positive tests to hospitalizations and another 2 weeks to fatalities. So look at the case counts from October 15th and the Hospitalizations from the 29th to compare with today’s death totals..

[jon-nyc]

Hospitalizations are at an all-time high.

[LuFins Dad]

Yes, as was shown on George's graph and tacitly acknowledged in my reply that deaths would likely increase within 2 weeks...

[LuFins Dad]

The interesting thing is that the hospitalization wave started around 6 weeks ago, so we should have seen a corresponding increase in deaths, but we haven’t to this point.

I have no doubt that we will see an increase, but am thinking it will be well less than proportionate to the hospitalization rate and far less than the increase in case counts.

[George K]

I can’t find the article at the moment, but supposedly some asshats snuck into an ICU with cameras to try to prove that they really weren’t full.

[Jolly]

@George-K said in 104,000:

I can’t find the article at the moment, but supposedly some asshats snuck into an ICU with cameras to try to prove that they really weren’t full.

Go to jail. Go directly to jail, do not pass Go.

[Loki]

Regular beds can easily be flipped to an ICU bed. I have no idea why this is never mentioned.

[Copper]

I thought the problem was the additional equipment associated with an ICU bed - specifically a ventilator.

[LuFins Dad]

@Copper said in 104,000:

I thought the problem was the additional equipment associated with an ICU bed - specifically a ventilator.

I’m pretty sure they are avoiding ventilators at all cost and finding that they are causing more harm than good? Plus we’ve now got gadzooks numbers of ventilators....

[George K]

@Copper said in 104,000:

I thought the problem was the additional equipment associated with an ICU bed - specifically a ventilator.

And staffing. You can’t have one nurse tending to a dozen patients.

[Jolly]

@Loki said in 104,000:

Regular beds can easily be flipped to an ICU bed. I have no idea why this is never mentioned.

Bless your heart, you don't know what you're talking about.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Jolly said in 104,000:

Bless your heart

LOL

[Loki]

@Jolly said in 104,000:

@Loki said in 104,000:

Regular beds can easily be flipped to an ICU bed. I have no idea why this is never mentioned.

Bless your heart, you don't know what you're talking about.

So you are arguing that hospitals in general are at or near capacity and can’t take on new Covid patientsas a widespread issue?

Good luck with that.

I agree that finding enough clinicians will be an operational but doable headache.