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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 16:03 last edited by
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    There’s actually a chance that he did have more total votes from that community than John Kerry..:

    The Brad

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      Axtremus
      wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 16:11 last edited by
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      There is no "logic" that says one is not a racist against a particular race if one has the political support of some incremental x% of said race.

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        Mik
        wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 16:35 last edited by
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        Ax, stop digging talking. Really.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Axtremus
          wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 16:37 last edited by
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          I share my wisdom for your benefit. Be grateful.

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            @Axtremus said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

            I share my wisdom hallucinations for your benefit. Be grateful.

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              Catseye3
              wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 16:41 last edited by
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              @Axtremus said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

              There is no "logic" that says one is not a racist against a particular race if one has the political support of some incremental x% of said race.

              Honestly? I don't see anything amiss about Ax's point here.

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                Mik
                wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 16:46 last edited by
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                You've been drinking too much vitamin water.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  4 Nov 2020, 16:46

                  You've been drinking too much vitamin water.

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                  @Mik said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                  ou've been drinking too much vitamin water.

                  555555

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                  • 8 89th
                    4 Nov 2020, 15:58

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                    Trump had unprecedented support in the black and Latino communities. Can we stop this “racist” crap?

                    That involves logic. The media doesn’t like that narrative ending.

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 17:07 last edited by
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                    @89th said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                    Trump had unprecedented support in the black and Latino communities. Can we stop this “racist” crap?

                    That involves logic. The media doesn’t like that narrative ending.

                    All joking aside, I think you couldn't possibly be more wrong about that. The left's media content strategy is not the brainchild of daffy airheads. They don't call Trump a racist because they're silly people who can't read statistics. They want and benefit from the zealotry. It's how media companies compete with Twitter for your attention and it's how SJWs get the random white folks and companies who make the news to bend to their will. What they're doing is rational and deliberate.

                    That's why this shit is almost certainly not going to stop with Trump out of office. It's going to be a situation where internet douchebags and random people like Nick Sandmann are offered up as a new cancellation sacrifice every week or so.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • A Aqua Letifer
                      4 Nov 2020, 17:07

                      @89th said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                      Trump had unprecedented support in the black and Latino communities. Can we stop this “racist” crap?

                      That involves logic. The media doesn’t like that narrative ending.

                      All joking aside, I think you couldn't possibly be more wrong about that. The left's media content strategy is not the brainchild of daffy airheads. They don't call Trump a racist because they're silly people who can't read statistics. They want and benefit from the zealotry. It's how media companies compete with Twitter for your attention and it's how SJWs get the random white folks and companies who make the news to bend to their will. What they're doing is rational and deliberate.

                      That's why this shit is almost certainly not going to stop with Trump out of office. It's going to be a situation where internet douchebags and random people like Nick Sandmann are offered up as a new cancellation sacrifice every week or so.

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                      Jolly
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                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                      @89th said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                      Trump had unprecedented support in the black and Latino communities. Can we stop this “racist” crap?

                      That involves logic. The media doesn’t like that narrative ending.

                      All joking aside, I think you couldn't possibly be more wrong about that. The left's media content strategy is not the brainchild of daffy airheads. They don't call Trump a racist because they're silly people who can't read statistics. They want and benefit from the zealotry. It's how media companies compete with Twitter for your attention and it's how SJWs get the random white folks and companies who make the news to bend to their will. What they're doing is rational and deliberate.

                      That's why this shit is almost certainly not going to stop with Trump out of office. It's going to be a situation where internet douchebags and random people like Nick Sandmann are offered up as a new cancellation sacrifice every week or so.

                      Preach on, brother.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 17:37 last edited by
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                        Ax's ridiculous trolling aside, there are so many true believers amongst white women and feminine men who derive a lot of their life's meaning from their feeling of superiority over the forces of racist evil they've been convinced exist all around them. These are uniformly silly and inconsequential people, but they do form the society amongst which we all must live. And their ideas, what they've been taught, are not going anywhere.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • A Axtremus
                          4 Nov 2020, 15:50

                          What do you mean "unprecedented support"?
                          There is nothing "unprecedented" about it.
                          Biden has more support.
                          Clinton had more support.
                          Obama had more support.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 17:37 last edited by
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                          @Axtremus said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                          What do you mean "unprecedented support"?
                          There is nothing "unprecedented" about it.
                          Biden has more support.
                          Clinton had more support.
                          Obama had more support.

                          I'm left puzzled by who is the biggest troll, you, or NS?

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • J Jolly
                            4 Nov 2020, 17:37

                            @Axtremus said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                            What do you mean "unprecedented support"?
                            There is nothing "unprecedented" about it.
                            Biden has more support.
                            Clinton had more support.
                            Obama had more support.

                            I'm left puzzled by who is the biggest troll, you, or NS?

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 17:39 last edited by
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                            @Jolly said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                            @Axtremus said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                            What do you mean "unprecedented support"?
                            There is nothing "unprecedented" about it.
                            Biden has more support.
                            Clinton had more support.
                            Obama had more support.

                            I'm left puzzled by who is the biggest troll, you, or NS?

                            I'm rather enjoying Ax's narcissistic turn with his unrequested weekly mastubration sessions on the piano. It's a subtle troll, from a subtle troll.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              4 Nov 2020, 16:37

                              I share my wisdom for your benefit. Be grateful.

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                              Larry
                              wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 17:40 last edited by
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                              @Axtremus said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                              I share my wisdom for your benefit. Be grateful.

                              You don't have any wisdom to share. You're one of the stupidest dumb fucks breathing air.

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                              • H Horace
                                4 Nov 2020, 17:39

                                @Jolly said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                                @Axtremus said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                                What do you mean "unprecedented support"?
                                There is nothing "unprecedented" about it.
                                Biden has more support.
                                Clinton had more support.
                                Obama had more support.

                                I'm left puzzled by who is the biggest troll, you, or NS?

                                I'm rather enjoying Ax's narcissistic turn with his unrequested weekly mastubration sessions on the piano. It's a subtle troll, from a subtle troll.

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                                Larry
                                wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 17:41 last edited by
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                                @Horace said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                                @Jolly said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                                @Axtremus said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                                What do you mean "unprecedented support"?
                                There is nothing "unprecedented" about it.
                                Biden has more support.
                                Clinton had more support.
                                Obama had more support.

                                I'm left puzzled by who is the biggest troll, you, or NS?

                                I'm rather enjoying Ax's narcissistic turn with his unrequested weekly mastubration sessions on the piano. It's a subtle troll, from a subtle troll.

                                I want to know where he got the idea he could play the piano to start with.

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                                • A Aqua Letifer
                                  4 Nov 2020, 17:07

                                  @89th said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                                  Trump had unprecedented support in the black and Latino communities. Can we stop this “racist” crap?

                                  That involves logic. The media doesn’t like that narrative ending.

                                  All joking aside, I think you couldn't possibly be more wrong about that. The left's media content strategy is not the brainchild of daffy airheads. They don't call Trump a racist because they're silly people who can't read statistics. They want and benefit from the zealotry. It's how media companies compete with Twitter for your attention and it's how SJWs get the random white folks and companies who make the news to bend to their will. What they're doing is rational and deliberate.

                                  That's why this shit is almost certainly not going to stop with Trump out of office. It's going to be a situation where internet douchebags and random people like Nick Sandmann are offered up as a new cancellation sacrifice every week or so.

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                                  89th
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                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                                  @89th said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                                  Trump had unprecedented support in the black and Latino communities. Can we stop this “racist” crap?

                                  That involves logic. The media doesn’t like that narrative ending.

                                  All joking aside, I think you couldn't possibly be more wrong about that. The left's media content strategy is not the brainchild of daffy airheads. They don't call Trump a racist because they're silly people who can't read statistics. They want and benefit from the zealotry. It's how media companies compete with Twitter for your attention and it's how SJWs get the random white folks and companies who make the news to bend to their will. What they're doing is rational and deliberate.

                                  That's why this shit is almost certainly not going to stop with Trump out of office. It's going to be a situation where internet douchebags and random people like Nick Sandmann are offered up as a new cancellation sacrifice every week or so.

                                  Well said!

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                                  • A Aqua Letifer
                                    4 Nov 2020, 17:07

                                    @89th said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                                    Trump had unprecedented support in the black and Latino communities. Can we stop this “racist” crap?

                                    That involves logic. The media doesn’t like that narrative ending.

                                    All joking aside, I think you couldn't possibly be more wrong about that. The left's media content strategy is not the brainchild of daffy airheads. They don't call Trump a racist because they're silly people who can't read statistics. They want and benefit from the zealotry. It's how media companies compete with Twitter for your attention and it's how SJWs get the random white folks and companies who make the news to bend to their will. What they're doing is rational and deliberate.

                                    That's why this shit is almost certainly not going to stop with Trump out of office. It's going to be a situation where internet douchebags and random people like Nick Sandmann are offered up as a new cancellation sacrifice every week or so.

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                                    Nunatax
                                    wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 08:21 last edited by Nunatax 11 May 2020, 08:22
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                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                                    That's why this shit is almost certainly not going to stop with Trump out of office. ...

                                    Ending it will not, most probably. But do you think the magnitude of it will be the same? The perspective over here is that Trump is a very polarizing person, not doing any effort at all to bring the two sides in your country together. And he leans pretty heavily towards the conservative side, which makes his difference with the left media's viewpoints pretty big. This also means that in this case they can score pretty successfully any time they publish something anti-trump, because there's a big enough group of people that think they are right to do so. If after the election Biden is president, and still they will attack people with a conservative but more moderate viewpoint (or perhaps Trump-like people who are not so much in the spotlights purely for the sake of being able to continue; thereby I must also admit I do not know who this Nick Sandman is), with the same intensity as they did with Trump, surely they will not have as much success with that? Given some time, I do think the overall tone in the media would become more moderate if eventually it's Biden who gets elected.
                                    To me it mainly seems like action-reaction to me. Trump is very far to the right and speaks out strongly against many (if not most) things posted by the left media. It seems only logical that they respond to that (irregardless of who is right). With this, I do not want to say anything about how it all got started, or who caused it. Don't have a good view on that.

                                    With that in mind, I would love to see what the left media would do with a moderate Republican president in more quiet times (e.g. without global pandemics in the case of Trump, or without terrorist attacks and wars as was the case with Bush Jr.). Equally curious now how Fox News and other right-leaning media will treat Biden, though.

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                                    • L Larry
                                      4 Nov 2020, 17:40

                                      @Axtremus said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                                      I share my wisdom for your benefit. Be grateful.

                                      You don't have any wisdom to share. You're one of the stupidest dumb fucks breathing air.

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                                      AndyD
                                      wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 09:47 last edited by
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                                      @Larry said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                                      @Axtremus said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                                      I share my wisdom for your benefit. Be grateful.

                                      You don't have any wisdom to share. You're one of the stupidest dumb fucks breathing air.

                                      Larry, all these years since Apple called you, and apparently you haven't changed one spot.
                                      We all need time, but you more than most.

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                                      • N Nunatax
                                        5 Nov 2020, 08:21

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                                        That's why this shit is almost certainly not going to stop with Trump out of office. ...

                                        Ending it will not, most probably. But do you think the magnitude of it will be the same? The perspective over here is that Trump is a very polarizing person, not doing any effort at all to bring the two sides in your country together. And he leans pretty heavily towards the conservative side, which makes his difference with the left media's viewpoints pretty big. This also means that in this case they can score pretty successfully any time they publish something anti-trump, because there's a big enough group of people that think they are right to do so. If after the election Biden is president, and still they will attack people with a conservative but more moderate viewpoint (or perhaps Trump-like people who are not so much in the spotlights purely for the sake of being able to continue; thereby I must also admit I do not know who this Nick Sandman is), with the same intensity as they did with Trump, surely they will not have as much success with that? Given some time, I do think the overall tone in the media would become more moderate if eventually it's Biden who gets elected.
                                        To me it mainly seems like action-reaction to me. Trump is very far to the right and speaks out strongly against many (if not most) things posted by the left media. It seems only logical that they respond to that (irregardless of who is right). With this, I do not want to say anything about how it all got started, or who caused it. Don't have a good view on that.

                                        With that in mind, I would love to see what the left media would do with a moderate Republican president in more quiet times (e.g. without global pandemics in the case of Trump, or without terrorist attacks and wars as was the case with Bush Jr.). Equally curious now how Fox News and other right-leaning media will treat Biden, though.

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                                        @Nunatax said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                                        That's why this shit is almost certainly not going to stop with Trump out of office. ...

                                        Ending it will not, most probably. But do you think the magnitude of it will be the same? The perspective over here is that Trump is a very polarizing person, not doing any effort at all to bring the two sides in your country together. And he leans pretty heavily towards the conservative side, which makes his difference with the left media's viewpoints pretty big. This also means that in this case they can score pretty successfully any time they publish something anti-trump, because there's a big enough group of people that think they are right to do so. If after the election Biden is president, and still they will attack people with a conservative but more moderate viewpoint (or perhaps Trump-like people who are not so much in the spotlights purely for the sake of being able to continue; thereby I must also admit I do not know who this Nick Sandman is), with the same intensity as they did with Trump, surely they will not have as much success with that? Given some time, I do think the overall tone in the media would become more moderate if eventually it's Biden who gets elected.
                                        To me it mainly seems like action-reaction to me. Trump is very far to the right and speaks out strongly against many (if not most) things posted by the left media. It seems only logical that they respond to that (irregardless of who is right). With this, I do not want to say anything about how it all got started, or who caused it. Don't have a good view on that.

                                        With that in mind, I would love to see what the left media would do with a moderate Republican president in more quiet times (e.g. without global pandemics in the case of Trump, or without terrorist attacks and wars as was the case with Bush Jr.). Equally curious now how Fox News and other right-leaning media will treat Biden, though.

                                        A few points...Trump is not an ultra-conservative. Never has been. Especially not a fiscal conservative.

                                        Bush 43? I remember the media being much tougher on him before 9/11, than on Obama. Trump just accelerated an already existing trend.

                                        Nick Sandman? You really need to do some background reading. I think it will bring some clarity to the current state of the media.

                                        Lastly, do you realize almost half the country voted for Trump? And I mean voted for. Probably about 75% of the votes he received were from people who liked his policies and political views. Those people still exist today.

                                        Re-education and coercion by the MSM will continue. Ueber allen!

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          5 Nov 2020, 12:51

                                          @Nunatax said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                                          That's why this shit is almost certainly not going to stop with Trump out of office. ...

                                          Ending it will not, most probably. But do you think the magnitude of it will be the same? The perspective over here is that Trump is a very polarizing person, not doing any effort at all to bring the two sides in your country together. And he leans pretty heavily towards the conservative side, which makes his difference with the left media's viewpoints pretty big. This also means that in this case they can score pretty successfully any time they publish something anti-trump, because there's a big enough group of people that think they are right to do so. If after the election Biden is president, and still they will attack people with a conservative but more moderate viewpoint (or perhaps Trump-like people who are not so much in the spotlights purely for the sake of being able to continue; thereby I must also admit I do not know who this Nick Sandman is), with the same intensity as they did with Trump, surely they will not have as much success with that? Given some time, I do think the overall tone in the media would become more moderate if eventually it's Biden who gets elected.
                                          To me it mainly seems like action-reaction to me. Trump is very far to the right and speaks out strongly against many (if not most) things posted by the left media. It seems only logical that they respond to that (irregardless of who is right). With this, I do not want to say anything about how it all got started, or who caused it. Don't have a good view on that.

                                          With that in mind, I would love to see what the left media would do with a moderate Republican president in more quiet times (e.g. without global pandemics in the case of Trump, or without terrorist attacks and wars as was the case with Bush Jr.). Equally curious now how Fox News and other right-leaning media will treat Biden, though.

                                          A few points...Trump is not an ultra-conservative. Never has been. Especially not a fiscal conservative.

                                          Bush 43? I remember the media being much tougher on him before 9/11, than on Obama. Trump just accelerated an already existing trend.

                                          Nick Sandman? You really need to do some background reading. I think it will bring some clarity to the current state of the media.

                                          Lastly, do you realize almost half the country voted for Trump? And I mean voted for. Probably about 75% of the votes he received were from people who liked his policies and political views. Those people still exist today.

                                          Re-education and coercion by the MSM will continue. Ueber allen!

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                                          @Jolly said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                                          @Nunatax said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Can we at least end one narrative?:

                                          Lastly, do you realize almost half the country voted for Trump? And I mean voted for. Probably about 75% of the votes he received were from people who liked his policies and political views. Those people still exist today.

                                          87% of quoted statistics are made up on the spot. I rather think that was one of them.

                                          I was only joking

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