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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    I'm calling it for Trump.

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    @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

    I'm calling it for Trump.

    Game over.

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      What are they?

      They did FL well.

      They only have a 75% accuracy rate in calling elections, which is why Nate rates them a C- (IIRC).

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      @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

      What are they?

      They did FL well.

      They only have a 75% accuracy rate in calling elections, which is why Nate rates them a C- (IIRC).

      If Trump pulls this out, a lot of pollsters, including Nate, are going to look like idiots.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        #52

        Nate isn't a pollster. He just builds models based on polls.

        But people won't make that distinction and think he's an idiot anyway.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          #53

          But my question stands -

          Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            Don’t know... But their numbers matched in 16 and they seem to be matching up this time pretty well...

            The Brad

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              I have found that I have been more interested in the House and Senate races. So far the GOP is doing really well it looks like. Collins, McConnell and Graham are all winners, and those were seats the Dems spent a LOT of money on. In House races they poured money in my district and the one next to it and are still losing.

              How are things going in your states' house/senate races?

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                But my question stands -

                Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?

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                #56

                @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                But my question stands -

                Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?

                GOP for sure but if Trump wins can you ever read Nate Silver with a straight face again? It would be like reading the manifesto of a dangerous mind.

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  Don’t know... But their numbers matched in 16 and they seem to be matching up this time pretty well...

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                  @LuFins-Dad said in Calling the States:

                  Don’t know... But their numbers matched in 16 and they seem to be matching up this time pretty well...

                  What are their numbers? Other than FL.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                    But my question stands -

                    Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?

                    GOP for sure but if Trump wins can you ever read Nate Silver with a straight face again? It would be like reading the manifesto of a dangerous mind.

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                    #58

                    @Loki said in Calling the States:

                    @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                    But my question stands -

                    Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?

                    GOP for sure but if Trump wins can you ever read Nate Silver with a straight face again? It would be like reading the manifesto of a dangerous mind.

                    Obviously they lean GOP. But is that all they got? Or do they do it intelligently so there are not too many false positives? Nate says they've got a 75% record which is kind of poor.

                    Also, see my reply to Jolly.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      Looks like Fox is disabling some of their odd meters.

                      Major fail overall for them.

                      Screen Shot 2020-11-03 at 11.22.41 PM.png

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        Fox just called AZ for Biden. that's interesting

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            @Loki said in Calling the States:

                            @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                            But my question stands -

                            Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?

                            GOP for sure but if Trump wins can you ever read Nate Silver with a straight face again? It would be like reading the manifesto of a dangerous mind.

                            Obviously they lean GOP. But is that all they got? Or do they do it intelligently so there are not too many false positives? Nate says they've got a 75% record which is kind of poor.

                            Also, see my reply to Jolly.

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                            I know Nate isn’t a pollster but he has a loud voice. I thought he understood and am a fan for the moment.

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                              Screen Shot 2020-11-03 at 11.28.43 PM.png

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                                  I'm calling it for Trump.

                                  I think you're too early.

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                                  @Jolly said in Calling the States:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                                  I'm calling it for Trump.

                                  I think you're too early.

                                  You're right. They've always said election night would look good for Trump then mail in ballots would push things the other way.

                                  We won't really know what happened for a day or two at least. It could come down to those little orphan districts in NE and ME.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    Scenario:

                                    Trump gets PA, OH. Biden gets WI MI. Then Biden only needs one of the tossup NE/ME house districts to get to 270.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      Remember, PA, MI, WI have only reported in-person ballots so far.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        Remember, PA, MI, WI have only reported in-person ballots so far.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                                        Remember, PA, MI, WI have only reported in-person ballots so far.

                                        Yeah, I’m thinking Arizona sunk Trump. Michigan will bear some watching, but...

                                        The Brad

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                                          Although in fairness only Fox has called it.

                                          But FWIW Nate was in awe at some Maricopa county in-person results that boded poorly for the president.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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