Calling the States
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 03:52 last edited by
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What are they?
They did FL well.
They only have a 75% accuracy rate in calling elections, which is why Nate rates them a C- (IIRC).
wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 03:54 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Calling the States:
What are they?
They did FL well.
They only have a 75% accuracy rate in calling elections, which is why Nate rates them a C- (IIRC).
If Trump pulls this out, a lot of pollsters, including Nate, are going to look like idiots.
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 03:55 last edited by
Nate isn't a pollster. He just builds models based on polls.
But people won't make that distinction and think he's an idiot anyway.
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 03:56 last edited by
But my question stands -
Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 03:59 last edited by
Don’t know... But their numbers matched in 16 and they seem to be matching up this time pretty well...
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:08 last edited by
I have found that I have been more interested in the House and Senate races. So far the GOP is doing really well it looks like. Collins, McConnell and Graham are all winners, and those were seats the Dems spent a LOT of money on. In House races they poured money in my district and the one next to it and are still losing.
How are things going in your states' house/senate races?
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But my question stands -
Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?
wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:11 last edited by Loki 11 Apr 2020, 04:11@jon-nyc said in Calling the States:
But my question stands -
Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?
GOP for sure but if Trump wins can you ever read Nate Silver with a straight face again? It would be like reading the manifesto of a dangerous mind.
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Don’t know... But their numbers matched in 16 and they seem to be matching up this time pretty well...
wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:14 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Calling the States:
Don’t know... But their numbers matched in 16 and they seem to be matching up this time pretty well...
What are their numbers? Other than FL.
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@jon-nyc said in Calling the States:
But my question stands -
Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?
GOP for sure but if Trump wins can you ever read Nate Silver with a straight face again? It would be like reading the manifesto of a dangerous mind.
wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:14 last edited by jon-nyc 11 Apr 2020, 04:23@Loki said in Calling the States:
@jon-nyc said in Calling the States:
But my question stands -
Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?
GOP for sure but if Trump wins can you ever read Nate Silver with a straight face again? It would be like reading the manifesto of a dangerous mind.
Obviously they lean GOP. But is that all they got? Or do they do it intelligently so there are not too many false positives? Nate says they've got a 75% record which is kind of poor.
Also, see my reply to Jolly.
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:24 last edited by
Looks like Fox is disabling some of their odd meters.
Major fail overall for them.
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:25 last edited by
Fox just called AZ for Biden. that's interesting
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:26 last edited by
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@Loki said in Calling the States:
@jon-nyc said in Calling the States:
But my question stands -
Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?
GOP for sure but if Trump wins can you ever read Nate Silver with a straight face again? It would be like reading the manifesto of a dangerous mind.
Obviously they lean GOP. But is that all they got? Or do they do it intelligently so there are not too many false positives? Nate says they've got a 75% record which is kind of poor.
Also, see my reply to Jolly.
wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:28 last edited byI know Nate isn’t a pollster but he has a loud voice. I thought he understood and am a fan for the moment.
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@Jolly said in Calling the States:
@jon-nyc said in Calling the States:
I'm calling it for Trump.
I think you're too early.
You're right. They've always said election night would look good for Trump then mail in ballots would push things the other way.
We won't really know what happened for a day or two at least. It could come down to those little orphan districts in NE and ME.
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:42 last edited by
Scenario:
Trump gets PA, OH. Biden gets WI MI. Then Biden only needs one of the tossup NE/ME house districts to get to 270.
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:43 last edited by
Remember, PA, MI, WI have only reported in-person ballots so far.
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:49 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Calling the States:
Remember, PA, MI, WI have only reported in-person ballots so far.
Yeah, I’m thinking Arizona sunk Trump. Michigan will bear some watching, but...
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:52 last edited by
Although in fairness only Fox has called it.
But FWIW Nate was in awe at some Maricopa county in-person results that boded poorly for the president.
