Calling the States
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Trump lies more easily than anybody I can think of. I don't think he sees it as lying, he just says what he wants to be true, and he believes it is true. I suspect he's done it his whole life.
I heard his speech earlier today, and he almost convinced me that he believed it. Clearly, it's a total load of bollocks.
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From 538
"The contest for Arizona just got closer, but Biden still leads there. That’s the takeaway from Maricopa County’s approximately 75,000-vote report a moment ago. Trump won 56 percent of that batch to Biden’s 42 percent, which cut Biden’s statewide lead to 1.6 points, or about 46,000 votes. With perhaps another 200,000 votes outstanding from Maricopa — and at least a few from other counties in Arizona — Trump is not out of the race for the state’s 11 electoral votes yet."
Sounds like voter fraud to me!!!! Stop the count!!!!
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When u lose support at Fox, that’s bad enough, but hey, looks like even the NY Post is abandoning the sinking ship
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biden just passed trump in georgia
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Nice
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Glad I didn’t stay up for it
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Interesting graphs showing how the margin has changed over time, for the 5 remaining states.
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Now Pennsylvania
If he takes all the outstanding states it’s over 306 electoral votes.
I guessed 330. Damn.
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@bachophile said in Calling the States:
I guessed 330. Damn.
So you missed Florida. Like many professional pollsters. No need to beat yourself up over it.
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By the way, Biden took the lead in PA without counting any votes that arrived post-November 3rd. Those have been segregated and not yet counted.
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I forget which entity's calling of the winner makes it official.
From VOANews: "Many people assume the winner of the U.S. presidential contest is determined once the media calls the race and the losing candidate delivers a concession speech. But the truth is that formally declaring a presidential winner is a months-long process that won’t be completed until January.
"That process essentially involves Americans voting for electors, the electors voting for the president, and then Congress declaring the winner.
"There's Election Day, where those electors are elected; there's the date in December where the electors meet and then vote for president; and then there's the date in January where the Congress certifies that election.”
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I do think everybody here knows that.
But for all practical purposes....
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Now comes the interesting part...Let’s see what the Republican legislatures do....
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You mean gerrymandering post census?
Or do you think they'll try to select rival electors?
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I think in terms of actual shenanigans it's far less likely given that Biden's victory is overdetermined.
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@Axtremus said in Calling the States:
@bachophile said in Calling the States:
I guessed 330. Damn.
So you missed Florida. Like many professional pollsters. No need to beat yourself up over it.
Got Florida right. Missed a few others.
And I actually wrote 329 as Jon mentioned in the other thread.
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Sorry buddy, you don't get to turn the page on our gloating that easily.
We get at least until Trump concedes. Then we'll return to our normal levels of obnoxiousness.
