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Calling the States

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    You can imagine Trump simply demanding his team sue everywhere he’s losing and just not taking “but we don’t really have grounds” as an answer.

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    @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

    You can imagine Trump simply demanding his team sue everywhere he’s losing and just not taking “but we don’t really have grounds” as an answer.

    The closeness of the vote counts demands a recount, at minimum.

    There isn't anyone in the entire world that wouldn't demand a double and triple check of the close races.

    The difference with Mr. Trump is that an insult must be thrown at him.

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      #310

      Need a count before you can have a recount.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        Betting odds:

        NV: 91/9 Biden
        PA: 90/10 Biden
        GA: 87/13 Biden
        AZ: 65/35 Biden

        National: 91.2/8.4

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          #312

          The President and his campaign staff had falsely claimed throughout the day that their representatives were not allowed in the room. But their counsel admitted at the hearing, after questions from the court, that they had several representatives in the room.. In fact, they had at least 19 observers...

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            #313

            Georgia is going to be close. Biden should have it tip his way literally any minute now.

            But it will likely finish within 1/3 of a percent.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              #314

              Trump lies more easily than anybody I can think of. I don't think he sees it as lying, he just says what he wants to be true, and he believes it is true. I suspect he's done it his whole life.

              I heard his speech earlier today, and he almost convinced me that he believed it. Clearly, it's a total load of bollocks.

              I was only joking

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                #315

                From 538

                "The contest for Arizona just got closer, but Biden still leads there. That’s the takeaway from Maricopa County’s approximately 75,000-vote report a moment ago. Trump won 56 percent of that batch to Biden’s 42 percent, which cut Biden’s statewide lead to 1.6 points, or about 46,000 votes. With perhaps another 200,000 votes outstanding from Maricopa — and at least a few from other counties in Arizona — Trump is not out of the race for the state’s 11 electoral votes yet."

                Sounds like voter fraud to me!!!! Stop the count!!!!

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                  #316

                  It does suggest that Fox and AP were perhaps a bit premature in calling AZ for Biden.

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                    When u lose support at Fox, that’s bad enough, but hey, looks like even the NY Post is abandoning the sinking ship

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                      #318

                      biden just passed trump in georgia

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                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #319

                        Nice

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          #320

                          Glad I didn’t stay up for it

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            Interesting graphs showing how the margin has changed over time, for the 5 remaining states.

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                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              Now Pennsylvania

                              If he takes all the outstanding states it’s over 306 electoral votes.

                              I guessed 330. Damn.

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                              • bachophileB bachophile

                                Now Pennsylvania

                                If he takes all the outstanding states it’s over 306 electoral votes.

                                I guessed 330. Damn.

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                                @bachophile said in Calling the States:

                                I guessed 330. Damn.

                                So you missed Florida. Like many professional pollsters. No need to beat yourself up over it.

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                                  #324

                                  The Decision Desk has called the entire election for Biden:

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                                    By the way, Biden took the lead in PA without counting any votes that arrived post-November 3rd. Those have been segregated and not yet counted.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      I forget which entity's calling of the winner makes it official.

                                      From VOANews: "Many people assume the winner of the U.S. presidential contest is determined once the media calls the race and the losing candidate delivers a concession speech. But the truth is that formally declaring a presidential winner is a months-long process that won’t be completed until January.

                                      "That process essentially involves Americans voting for electors, the electors voting for the president, and then Congress declaring the winner.

                                      "There's Election Day, where those electors are elected; there's the date in December where the electors meet and then vote for president; and then there's the date in January where the Congress certifies that election.”

                                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                        #327

                                        I do think everybody here knows that.

                                        But for all practical purposes....

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                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                          Now comes the interesting part...Let’s see what the Republican legislatures do....

                                          The Brad

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