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Calling the States

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
    #312

    The President and his campaign staff had falsely claimed throughout the day that their representatives were not allowed in the room. But their counsel admitted at the hearing, after questions from the court, that they had several representatives in the room.. In fact, they had at least 19 observers...

    You were warned.

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      jon-nyc
      wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
      #313

      Georgia is going to be close. Biden should have it tip his way literally any minute now.

      But it will likely finish within 1/3 of a percent.

      You were warned.

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      • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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        Doctor Phibes
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        #314

        Trump lies more easily than anybody I can think of. I don't think he sees it as lying, he just says what he wants to be true, and he believes it is true. I suspect he's done it his whole life.

        I heard his speech earlier today, and he almost convinced me that he believed it. Clearly, it's a total load of bollocks.

        I was only joking

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        • taiwan_girlT Offline
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          taiwan_girl
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          #315

          From 538

          "The contest for Arizona just got closer, but Biden still leads there. That’s the takeaway from Maricopa County’s approximately 75,000-vote report a moment ago. Trump won 56 percent of that batch to Biden’s 42 percent, which cut Biden’s statewide lead to 1.6 points, or about 46,000 votes. With perhaps another 200,000 votes outstanding from Maricopa — and at least a few from other counties in Arizona — Trump is not out of the race for the state’s 11 electoral votes yet."

          Sounds like voter fraud to me!!!! Stop the count!!!!

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          • kluursK Offline
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            kluurs
            wrote on last edited by kluurs
            #316

            It does suggest that Fox and AP were perhaps a bit premature in calling AZ for Biden.

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            • bachophileB Offline
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              bachophile
              wrote on last edited by
              #317

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              When u lose support at Fox, that’s bad enough, but hey, looks like even the NY Post is abandoning the sinking ship

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              • bachophileB Offline
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                bachophile
                wrote on last edited by
                #318

                biden just passed trump in georgia

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #319

                  Nice

                  You were warned.

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #320

                    Glad I didn’t stay up for it

                    You were warned.

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #321

                      Interesting graphs showing how the margin has changed over time, for the 5 remaining states.

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                      You were warned.

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                      • bachophileB Offline
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                        bachophile
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #322

                        Now Pennsylvania

                        If he takes all the outstanding states it’s over 306 electoral votes.

                        I guessed 330. Damn.

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                        • bachophileB bachophile

                          Now Pennsylvania

                          If he takes all the outstanding states it’s over 306 electoral votes.

                          I guessed 330. Damn.

                          AxtremusA Offline
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                          Axtremus
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #323

                          @bachophile said in Calling the States:

                          I guessed 330. Damn.

                          So you missed Florida. Like many professional pollsters. No need to beat yourself up over it.

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                          • AxtremusA Offline
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                            #324

                            The Decision Desk has called the entire election for Biden:

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                            • jon-nycJ Offline
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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #325

                              By the way, Biden took the lead in PA without counting any votes that arrived post-November 3rd. Those have been segregated and not yet counted.

                              You were warned.

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                              • Catseye3C Offline
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                                Catseye3
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #326

                                I forget which entity's calling of the winner makes it official.

                                From VOANews: "Many people assume the winner of the U.S. presidential contest is determined once the media calls the race and the losing candidate delivers a concession speech. But the truth is that formally declaring a presidential winner is a months-long process that won’t be completed until January.

                                "That process essentially involves Americans voting for electors, the electors voting for the president, and then Congress declaring the winner.

                                "There's Election Day, where those electors are elected; there's the date in December where the electors meet and then vote for president; and then there's the date in January where the Congress certifies that election.”

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                  #327

                                  I do think everybody here knows that.

                                  But for all practical purposes....

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                                  You were warned.

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                                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #328

                                    Now comes the interesting part...Let’s see what the Republican legislatures do....

                                    The Brad

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                                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #329

                                      You mean gerrymandering post census?

                                      Or do you think they'll try to select rival electors?

                                      You were warned.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #330

                                        I think in terms of actual shenanigans it's far less likely given that Biden's victory is overdetermined.

                                        You were warned.

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                                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                          @bachophile said in Calling the States:

                                          I guessed 330. Damn.

                                          So you missed Florida. Like many professional pollsters. No need to beat yourself up over it.

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                                          bachophile
                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          @Axtremus said in Calling the States:

                                          @bachophile said in Calling the States:

                                          I guessed 330. Damn.

                                          So you missed Florida. Like many professional pollsters. No need to beat yourself up over it.

                                          Got Florida right. Missed a few others.

                                          And I actually wrote 329 as Jon mentioned in the other thread.

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