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Where's Kim?

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    Optimistic
    wrote on 26 Apr 2020, 20:41 last edited by
    #53

    👏

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      Loki
      wrote on 26 Apr 2020, 20:58 last edited by
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      Where we are at is that there is more risk if Kim is dead than if he is alive. How that gets translated into Brain dead Trump policy failure is one for the ages.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 26 Apr 2020, 21:12 last edited by jon-nyc
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        I didn’t view this as commentary about his specific NK policy, such as it is.

        Having said that, I don’t think it’s clear whether his replacement will be better or worse.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          xenon
          wrote on 26 Apr 2020, 21:15 last edited by
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          Are there any eligible Kims?

          Cuts the whole founding divine family myth down if not.

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            26 Apr 2020, 21:12

            I didn’t view this as commentary about his specific NK policy, such as it is.

            Having said that, I don’t think it’s clear whether his replacement will be better or worse.

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            Loki
            wrote on 26 Apr 2020, 21:18 last edited by
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            @jon-nyc said in Where's Kim?:

            I didn’t view this as commentary about his specific NK policy, such as it is.

            Having said that, I don’t think it’s clear whether his replacement will be better or worse.

            It’s the transition period that has high odds of unstable consequences.

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              26 Apr 2020, 21:15

              Are there any eligible Kims?

              Cuts the whole founding divine family myth down if not.

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              Mik
              wrote on 26 Apr 2020, 21:20 last edited by
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              @xenon Yes. His sister is next in line. I don't imagine she will be any better.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • M Mik
                26 Apr 2020, 21:20

                @xenon Yes. His sister is next in line. I don't imagine she will be any better.

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                Loki
                wrote on 26 Apr 2020, 21:23 last edited by
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                @Mik said in Where's Kim?:

                @xenon Yes. His sister is next in line. I don't imagine she will be any better.

                As if it’s a given she would be accepted, by let’s say the military? Coup perhaps or worse specific acts on her part to solidify her position? Or let’s say meltdown and what does China have to do on the peninsula and what about the security of the nuclear arsenal?

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                  26 Apr 2020, 21:20

                  @xenon Yes. His sister is next in line. I don't imagine she will be any better.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 26 Apr 2020, 21:30 last edited by
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                  @Mik said in Where's Kim?:

                  @xenon Yes. His sister is next in line. I don't imagine she will be any better.

                  She's (marginally) prettier?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 27 Apr 2020, 00:55 last edited by
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                    I think people are correct that his sister would be leader, maybe only in name. She has been promoted recently and has been named to the DPRK party central committee. However, the DPRK is still very "man-centered", so I am not sure that she would be completely accepted. Maybe as part of a ruling committee.

                    His uncle, who was second in command, but was executed by Kim Jong Un, has a wife who had disappeared from public, but has been back in official engagements recently. However, I dont think she has much remaining power.

                    There is a older brother, but he is supposedly gay and wants nothing to do with politics.

                    Premier Kim and his wife (Ri Sol Ju) also supposedly have three children, the oldest who is a boy who is about 10 years old.

                    So maybe there would be a committee to rule for 10-15 years until the older child is older.

                    But, even with all of that, i do not think much will change if Premier Kim is in fact dead or unable to rule.

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                      brenda
                      wrote on 27 Apr 2020, 01:21 last edited by
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                      Any speculation whether the sister or another relative played a role in his demise?

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                      • B brenda
                        27 Apr 2020, 01:21

                        Any speculation whether the sister or another relative played a role in his demise?

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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote on 27 Apr 2020, 01:58 last edited by
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                        @brenda said in Where's Kim?:

                        Any speculation whether the sister or another relative played a role in his demise?

                        I dont think so. Everything that I have hear about Premier Kim is that he did a good job of getting rid of people to make sure that those close to him are very loyal.

                        But, with DPRK, who knows!! LOL

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                          George K
                          wrote on 1 May 2020, 21:17 last edited by
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                          https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20200502000300325

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 1 May 2020, 22:43 last edited by
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                            He's got company:

                            If Kim Jong Un is holed up in his luxe seaside hideaway in the port city of Wonsan, he may have plenty of company — a harem of 2,000 sex slaves, a report said Friday.

                            The North Korean dictator resurrected his late grandfather’s “Pleasure Squad” of secret sex entertainers in 2015, The Sun reported.

                            And while the dictator’s location and the state of his health remain a mystery, some reports say he fled to a luxury resort in the port city located along the eastern side of the Korean Peninsula to avoid catching the coronavirus — and the UK paper speculates that he might have his harem with him.

                            “It’s within the walls of his ultra-protected palaces that his Pleasure Squad provides entertainment for high-ranking North Korean officials,” the paper reported.

                            “The 2,000-strong harem is said to be made to sing and dance for the nation’s elite — but also take part in bizarre sexual games and orgies.”

                            Kim is widely known for his love of booze and fine food — and the Pleasure Squad provides him with kinky carnal pleasures as well.

                            Some members are said to have been as young as 13 when they were taken out of school and forced into sex work.

                            Defectors from North Korea even say the girls have to undergo invasive medical examinations to prove they’re virgins before they can join.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 2 May 2020, 10:44 last edited by
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                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                2 May 2020, 10:44

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                                Loki
                                wrote on 2 May 2020, 11:33 last edited by
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                                @jon-nyc

                                Had to look at the other thread to get that one. Lol

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 2 May 2020, 11:34 last edited by
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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 2 May 2020, 12:34 last edited by
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                                    https://apnews.com/ba5aa2273f29bdb59257ef1ea9e4f58b

                                    North Korean leader Kim Jong Un made his first public appearance in 20 days as he celebrated the completion of a fertilizer factory near Pyongyang, state media said Saturday, ending an absence that had triggered global rumors that he may be seriously ill.

                                    The North’s official Korean Central News Agency reported that Kim attended the ceremony Friday in Sunchon with other senior officials, including his sister Kim Yo Jong, who many analysts predict would take over if her brother is suddenly unable to rule.

                                    State media showed videos and photos of Kim wearing a black Mao suit and constantly smiling, walking around facilities, applauding, cutting a huge red ribbon with a scissor handed by his sister, and smoking inside and outside of buildings while talking with other officials.

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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 2 May 2020, 14:56 last edited by
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                                      Apparently we have a plan to sieze their nukes in case of instability.

                                      https://apple.news/AUYUT0AWWS36g1dTJgLugqg

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        2 May 2020, 12:34

                                        https://apnews.com/ba5aa2273f29bdb59257ef1ea9e4f58b

                                        North Korean leader Kim Jong Un made his first public appearance in 20 days as he celebrated the completion of a fertilizer factory near Pyongyang, state media said Saturday, ending an absence that had triggered global rumors that he may be seriously ill.

                                        The North’s official Korean Central News Agency reported that Kim attended the ceremony Friday in Sunchon with other senior officials, including his sister Kim Yo Jong, who many analysts predict would take over if her brother is suddenly unable to rule.

                                        State media showed videos and photos of Kim wearing a black Mao suit and constantly smiling, walking around facilities, applauding, cutting a huge red ribbon with a scissor handed by his sister, and smoking inside and outside of buildings while talking with other officials.

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                                        Loki
                                        wrote on 2 May 2020, 15:16 last edited by Loki 5 Feb 2020, 15:17
                                        #71

                                        Fire drills with speculation around his sister in not a bad idea to mitigate risk in succession planning.

                                        Ultimately his son just needs to ripen for another 15 or so years.

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on 2 May 2020, 15:47 last edited by Mik 5 Feb 2020, 15:47
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                                          You have to wonder what kind of instruction the generations of Kims have received. The Despot Institute. I was surprised the current one was educated in Switzerland.

                                          How does one train up their kid to be a ruthless murderer to maintain power.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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