When life imitates The Babylon Bee

[Catseye3]

White nationalists and far right extremists march through the University of Virginia Campus

[George K]

@Catseye3 said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

White nationalists and far right extremists march through the University of Virginia Campus

I have no idea of the context of that photo other than what you say it is. I have no reason to doubt it's false.

Now, answer me this: How many buildings, police cars, dumpsters, etc were torched during that march?

Remember the ACLU allowed the Nazis to march through Skokie, IL.

Or are you against the "Right of the people to PEACEABLY assemble?"

[Larry]

That's from 2017. None of them were "white nationalists", none of them were "far right extremists". Those two terms are perjoratives the Left and the Leftwing media use to sling mud at people who dare go against the Left. They were simply a group of people, mostly white but not all, who were there to protest against the removal of a statue.

[Aqua Letifer]

@George-K said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

Now, answer me this: How many buildings, police cars, dumpsters, etc were torched during that march?

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How many people have lost their jobs because the tiki torch whites fired them for being Biden supporters? How many personal phone numbers and addresses did they publicize because they didn't like a Biden supporter's politics? How many liberal students did they try to get expelled? How many liberal businesses did they try to shut down, vandalize or burn? How many liberal statues that are public property did they destroy? How many cop cars did they burn? How many liberals did they beat up on the street?

It's a goddamn ridiculous comparison. It's like using the German POW scene in Saving Private Ryan as evidence that Allied forces were just as bad as the Nazis.

The right's imperfect, with the same subset of semi-dangerous nutters they've always had. The left has completely and totally gone off the rails. No balanced comparison can be made if it's to remain honest. There's absolutely no point in bringing that shit up.

[George K]

@Aqua-Letifer said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

How many people have lost their jobs because the tiki torch whites fired them for being Biden supporters?

~~I'm simply asking about the so-called violence from the right that Cats was implying. Your "answer" was a dodge because it didn't respond to my questions.

Tell me about all the violence from the right since Trump became president, and let's start keeping score.

Yeah, there are whackos on the far-right, no one is disputing that. But the simple fact stands that Portland, Seattle, Chicago, Philadelphia, and other cities didn't burn because of right-wing extremists.

Change my mind.~~

EDIT: Ignore all that crap.

[Aqua Letifer]

@George-K said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

@Aqua-Letifer said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

How many people have lost their jobs because the tiki torch whites fired them for being Biden supporters?

I'm simply asking about the so-called violence from the right that Cats was implying. Your "answer" was a dodge because it didn't respond to my questions.

Tell me about all the violence from the right since Trump became president, and let's start keeping score.

Yeah, there are whackos on the far-right, no one is disputing that. But the simple fact stands that Portland, Seattle, Chicago, Philadelphia, and other cities didn't burn because of right-wing extremists.

Change my mind.

I don't think you read the rest of my message.

My questions were intended to illustrate that the left's nutters have done far, far worse damage in recent history than the right's.

Liberals being cancelled, doxxing against liberals, removing liberal-friendly statues, etc., etc. is ludicrous. It just doesn't happen, outside isolated exceptions.

Liberals cancelling people they don't like? Doxxing people they don't like? Burning down businesses they don't like? Tearing down public monuments they don't like? That's happened not once but many, many times in recent memory. In fact those incidents aren't outliers at all anymore, it's how liberals signal to other liberals that they're on the right side of things.

EDIT
LOL fine but my bullshit? Standing by it.

[Catseye3]

@George-K said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

have no idea of the context of that photo other than what you say it is. I have no reason to doubt it's false.
Now, answer me this: How many buildings, police cars, dumpsters, etc were torched during that march?
Remember the ACLU allowed the Nazis to march through Skokie, IL.
Or are you against the "Right of the people to PEACEABLY assemble?"

And I have no idea of the identity of the publisher of your article. (Though I might have missed it.)

As for your other point: I get it. Boardings-up of businesses before any protester presence versus many protestors on the scene carrying live-fire torches for what I'm sure were threat-less reasons. Got it.

What difference does it make, "how many" things were torched and so on when discussing the principle or reasonableness of one tribe's protests versus the other's?

What's good for the goose, baby.

Besides, the hero his ownself said there were"very fine people" among both the white supremacists and the counter-protesters.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Catseye3 said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

What's good for the goose, baby.

Yes because torch parades are absolutely the same as setting fire to businesses on a regular basis, turning entire city blocks into a lawless gangland for months, destroying public property, destroying hundreds of hundreds of lives because a mob didn't like one's personal politics (real or perceived), and sending death threats to the unemployed because their crime is supporting Donald Trump.

If you think the right's shenanigans are the same as the left's then you seriously and I mean seriously need to watch more news.

[Rainman]

I've never met a far-right extremist, as far as I know.
Matter of fact, I've never personally met a racist, as far as I know.

For those of you who have, it would be interesting for you to steel-man what their position is, and how they justify it. I'd be particularly interested in Jon's input.

Sure, they exist. The point is, I've NEVER MET ONE. Unless I just assume a red hat means they are racist, white supremacist.

[LuFins Dad]

@Rainman said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

I've never met a far-right extremist, as far as I know.
Matter of fact, I've never personally met a racist, as far as I know.

For those of you who have, it would be interesting for you to steel-man what their position is, and how they justify it. I'd be particularly interested in Jon's input.

Sure, they exist. The point is, I've NEVER MET ONE. Unless I just assume a red hat means they are racist, white supremacist.

You've never met a white person?

[Aqua Letifer]

@LuFins-Dad said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

You've never met a white person? male who isn't struggling financially?

FIFY.

[Jolly]

@Catseye3 said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

@George-K said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

have no idea of the context of that photo other than what you say it is. I have no reason to doubt it's false.
Now, answer me this: How many buildings, police cars, dumpsters, etc were torched during that march?
Remember the ACLU allowed the Nazis to march through Skokie, IL.
Or are you against the "Right of the people to PEACEABLY assemble?"

And I have no idea of the identity of the publisher of your article. (Though I might have missed it.)

As for your other point: I get it. Boardings-up of businesses before any protester presence versus many protestors on the scene carrying live-fire torches for what I'm sure were threat-less reasons. Got it.

What difference does it make, "how many" things were torched and so on when discussing the principle or reasonableness of one tribe's protests versus the other's?

What's good for the goose, baby.

Besides, the hero his ownself said there were"very fine people" among both the white supremacists and the counter-protesters.

Well, you stepped in cat shit, didn't you?

BTW, ever listen to what Trump actually said, rather than MSM and Biden propaganda? Trump wasn't referring to white supremacists, unless you think anybody who thinks it may be wrong to take down a statue of a Confederate is a white supremacist. If you do, you've got more problems than equating almost nonexistent right wing violence vs. weeks of left wing violence, and the satire of a Babylon Bee article.

[Catseye3]

@Aqua-Letifer said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

If you think the right's shenanigans are the same as the left's then you seriously and I mean seriously need to watch more news.

I actually mishandled my response to George's post following the photo I posted. I took it way away from the sole point I wanted to make, which was to deplore the bias in the top half of the story -- presented as though it was a news story and which redd more like Comment. Then all the rest from me stemmed from that.

The smaller-print article below that made more sense, what with police warnings to the businesses and all.

[Catseye3]

@Jolly said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

Well, you stepped in cat shit, didn't you?

Glad I could make your day, Jolly.

[LuFins Dad]

Cats? The Bee is a satire site. Getting upset over it is like getting upset over a Leslie Nielsen movie.

[Catseye3]

@LuFins-Dad

George's header suggested the opposite, at least to me. I got that the article seemed like it came from Babylon Bee, but didn't.

[Aqua Letifer]

I think the fact that it was taken seriously at all is indication enough that there's a big problem out there.

[Jolly]

@Aqua-Letifer said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

I think the fact that it was taken seriously at all is indication enough that there's a big problem out there.

Yep.

[George K]

[Jolly]

@George-K said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

That page does not exist.