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  • RainmanR Offline
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    Rainman
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    I've never met a far-right extremist, as far as I know.
    Matter of fact, I've never personally met a racist, as far as I know.

    For those of you who have, it would be interesting for you to steel-man what their position is, and how they justify it. I'd be particularly interested in Jon's input.

    Sure, they exist. The point is, I've NEVER MET ONE. Unless I just assume a red hat means they are racist, white supremacist.

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    • RainmanR Rainman

      I've never met a far-right extremist, as far as I know.
      Matter of fact, I've never personally met a racist, as far as I know.

      For those of you who have, it would be interesting for you to steel-man what their position is, and how they justify it. I'd be particularly interested in Jon's input.

      Sure, they exist. The point is, I've NEVER MET ONE. Unless I just assume a red hat means they are racist, white supremacist.

      LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
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      #12

      @Rainman said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

      I've never met a far-right extremist, as far as I know.
      Matter of fact, I've never personally met a racist, as far as I know.

      For those of you who have, it would be interesting for you to steel-man what their position is, and how they justify it. I'd be particularly interested in Jon's input.

      Sure, they exist. The point is, I've NEVER MET ONE. Unless I just assume a red hat means they are racist, white supremacist.

      You've never met a white person?

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        @Rainman said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

        I've never met a far-right extremist, as far as I know.
        Matter of fact, I've never personally met a racist, as far as I know.

        For those of you who have, it would be interesting for you to steel-man what their position is, and how they justify it. I'd be particularly interested in Jon's input.

        Sure, they exist. The point is, I've NEVER MET ONE. Unless I just assume a red hat means they are racist, white supremacist.

        You've never met a white person?

        Aqua LetiferA Offline
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        Aqua Letifer
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        #13

        @LuFins-Dad said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

        You've never met a white person? male who isn't struggling financially?

        FIFY.

        Please love yourself.

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        • Catseye3C Catseye3

          @George-K said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

          have no idea of the context of that photo other than what you say it is. I have no reason to doubt it's false.
          Now, answer me this: How many buildings, police cars, dumpsters, etc were torched during that march?
          Remember the ACLU allowed the Nazis to march through Skokie, IL.
          Or are you against the "Right of the people to PEACEABLY assemble?"

          And I have no idea of the identity of the publisher of your article. (Though I might have missed it.)

          As for your other point: I get it. Boardings-up of businesses before any protester presence versus many protestors on the scene carrying live-fire torches for what I'm sure were threat-less reasons. Got it.

          What difference does it make, "how many" things were torched and so on when discussing the principle or reasonableness of one tribe's protests versus the other's?

          What's good for the goose, baby.

          Besides, the hero his ownself said there were"very fine people" among both the white supremacists and the counter-protesters.

          JollyJ Offline
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          @Catseye3 said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

          @George-K said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

          have no idea of the context of that photo other than what you say it is. I have no reason to doubt it's false.
          Now, answer me this: How many buildings, police cars, dumpsters, etc were torched during that march?
          Remember the ACLU allowed the Nazis to march through Skokie, IL.
          Or are you against the "Right of the people to PEACEABLY assemble?"

          And I have no idea of the identity of the publisher of your article. (Though I might have missed it.)

          As for your other point: I get it. Boardings-up of businesses before any protester presence versus many protestors on the scene carrying live-fire torches for what I'm sure were threat-less reasons. Got it.

          What difference does it make, "how many" things were torched and so on when discussing the principle or reasonableness of one tribe's protests versus the other's?

          What's good for the goose, baby.

          Besides, the hero his ownself said there were"very fine people" among both the white supremacists and the counter-protesters.

          Well, you stepped in cat shit, didn't you?

          BTW, ever listen to what Trump actually said, rather than MSM and Biden propaganda? Trump wasn't referring to white supremacists, unless you think anybody who thinks it may be wrong to take down a statue of a Confederate is a white supremacist. If you do, you've got more problems than equating almost nonexistent right wing violence vs. weeks of left wing violence, and the satire of a Babylon Bee article.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @Catseye3 said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

            What's good for the goose, baby.

            Yes because torch parades are absolutely the same as setting fire to businesses on a regular basis, turning entire city blocks into a lawless gangland for months, destroying public property, destroying hundreds of hundreds of lives because a mob didn't like one's personal politics (real or perceived), and sending death threats to the unemployed because their crime is supporting Donald Trump.

            If you think the right's shenanigans are the same as the left's then you seriously and I mean seriously need to watch more news.

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            Catseye3
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            @Aqua-Letifer said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

            If you think the right's shenanigans are the same as the left's then you seriously and I mean seriously need to watch more news.

            I actually mishandled my response to George's post following the photo I posted. I took it way away from the sole point I wanted to make, which was to deplore the bias in the top half of the story -- presented as though it was a news story and which redd more like Comment. Then all the rest from me stemmed from that.

            The smaller-print article below that made more sense, what with police warnings to the businesses and all.

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @Catseye3 said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

              @George-K said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

              have no idea of the context of that photo other than what you say it is. I have no reason to doubt it's false.
              Now, answer me this: How many buildings, police cars, dumpsters, etc were torched during that march?
              Remember the ACLU allowed the Nazis to march through Skokie, IL.
              Or are you against the "Right of the people to PEACEABLY assemble?"

              And I have no idea of the identity of the publisher of your article. (Though I might have missed it.)

              As for your other point: I get it. Boardings-up of businesses before any protester presence versus many protestors on the scene carrying live-fire torches for what I'm sure were threat-less reasons. Got it.

              What difference does it make, "how many" things were torched and so on when discussing the principle or reasonableness of one tribe's protests versus the other's?

              What's good for the goose, baby.

              Besides, the hero his ownself said there were"very fine people" among both the white supremacists and the counter-protesters.

              Well, you stepped in cat shit, didn't you?

              BTW, ever listen to what Trump actually said, rather than MSM and Biden propaganda? Trump wasn't referring to white supremacists, unless you think anybody who thinks it may be wrong to take down a statue of a Confederate is a white supremacist. If you do, you've got more problems than equating almost nonexistent right wing violence vs. weeks of left wing violence, and the satire of a Babylon Bee article.

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              Catseye3
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              #16

              @Jolly said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

              Well, you stepped in cat shit, didn't you?

              Glad I could make your day, Jolly.

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                LuFins Dad
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                #17

                Cats? The Bee is a satire site. Getting upset over it is like getting upset over a Leslie Nielsen movie.

                The Brad

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  Cats? The Bee is a satire site. Getting upset over it is like getting upset over a Leslie Nielsen movie.

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                  Catseye3
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #18

                  @LuFins-Dad

                  George's header suggested the opposite, at least to me. I got that the article seemed like it came from Babylon Bee, but didn't.

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
                    #19

                    I think the fact that it was taken seriously at all is indication enough that there's a big problem out there.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      I think the fact that it was taken seriously at all is indication enough that there's a big problem out there.

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                      Jolly
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                      @Aqua-Letifer said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

                      I think the fact that it was taken seriously at all is indication enough that there's a big problem out there.

                      Yep.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        #21

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          @George-K said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

                          That page does not exist.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @George-K said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

                            That page does not exist.

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                            @Jolly said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

                            @George-K said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

                            That page does not exist.

                            He deleted the tweet, but, the internet is forever. Let me Voxsplain this to you:

                            Screen Shot 2020-11-02 at 3.25.36 PM.png

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • JollyJ Offline
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                              Jolly
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                              #24

                              Here's the problem...I keep reading all this horse hockey in the media or in Twitter about how crazy and violent all these Trump supporters can be.

                              Funny, I haven't read about any Trump supporters causing or participating in riots, burning buildings, etc. But I've seen plenty of violence from the Left, whom I assume are supporting Biden. And I also see indications these same idiots will riot if Trump is re-elected.

                              Go figure...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • MikM Away
                                MikM Away
                                Mik
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                                #25

                                Nor accosting folks in restaurants or on the street.

                                I have to say if they riot over the elections I'm ok with getting tough as needed to stop rioting. You wanna protest? Fine. Riot? No. Enough already. Not over an election.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  Nor accosting folks in restaurants or on the street.

                                  I have to say if they riot over the elections I'm ok with getting tough as needed to stop rioting. You wanna protest? Fine. Riot? No. Enough already. Not over an election.

                                  JollyJ Offline
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                                  @Mik said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

                                  Nor accosting folks in restaurants or on the street.

                                  I have to say if they riot over the elections I'm ok with getting tough as needed to stop rioting. You wanna protest? Fine. Riot? No. Enough already. Not over an election.

                                  BTW, even the incident with the Biden bus in Texas was proven to have been instigated by a Biden campaign car...

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    @Mik said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

                                    Nor accosting folks in restaurants or on the street.

                                    I have to say if they riot over the elections I'm ok with getting tough as needed to stop rioting. You wanna protest? Fine. Riot? No. Enough already. Not over an election.

                                    BTW, even the incident with the Biden bus in Texas was proven to have been instigated by a Biden campaign car...

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                                    @Jolly said in When life imitates The Babylon Bee:

                                    the incident with the Biden bus in Texas was proven to have been instigated by a Biden campaign car...

                                    I watched the videos this PM. It seems pretty obvious.

                                    Hopefully the FBI will be as diligent with the DNC's request for an investigation as they have been with everything else in the last 3 years.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      #28

                                      5555555555!

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • MikM Away
                                        MikM Away
                                        Mik
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                                        #29

                                        Yeah, I saw the videos today. Certainly not an assault.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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