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  • KlausK Online
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    Klaus
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    Wait, that's Anderson Dawes at 1:03! What's that beltalowda doing there?

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    • KlausK Klaus

      Wait, that's Anderson Dawes at 1:03! What's that beltalowda doing there?

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      George K
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      @Klaus said in Foundation:

      What's that beltalowda doing there?

      He escaped from The Terror of Chernobyl.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Premiers September 24

        Link to video

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Oh flipping heck, it's on Apple TV, what a PITA. I really can't justify another subscription.

          I was only joking

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            Oh flipping heck, it's on Apple TV, what a PITA. I really can't justify another subscription.

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            George K
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            @doctor-phibes said in Foundation:

            Oh flipping heck, it's on Apple TV, what a PITA. I really can't justify another subscription.

            I think you can get a free 6-month trial.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              @doctor-phibes said in Foundation:

              Oh flipping heck, it's on Apple TV, what a PITA. I really can't justify another subscription.

              I think you can get a free 6-month trial.

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              @george-k said in Foundation:

              @doctor-phibes said in Foundation:

              Oh flipping heck, it's on Apple TV, what a PITA. I really can't justify another subscription.

              I think you can get a free 6-month trial.

              I'll need to time that carefully

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @george-k said in Foundation:

                @doctor-phibes said in Foundation:

                Oh flipping heck, it's on Apple TV, what a PITA. I really can't justify another subscription.

                I think you can get a free 6-month trial.

                I'll need to time that carefully

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                George K
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                @doctor-phibes I was wrong.

                It's only 7 day free trial. But if you get a Mac purchase a qualifying Apple device, you get one year - free.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  George K
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                  September 24th.

                  Link to video

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    That's a must, although I am skeptical they can do the story justice. Gosh, it's been over 40 years since I read the trilogy and I still remember it.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      I re-read it about 5 years ago.

                      This makes me want to revisit.

                      The interesting question is this: Should I read in order of publication, or in order of the story?

                      Having read through Alastair Reynolds' "Revelation Space" universe this summer in order of story, I think that might be a better option.

                      Chronological:

Prelude to Foundation (1988)
                      Forward the Foundation (1993)
                      Foundation (1951)
                      Foundation and Empire (1952)
                      Second Foundation (1953)
                      Foundation's Edge (1982)
                      Foundation and Earth (1986)

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        I re-read it about 5 years ago.

                        This makes me want to revisit.

                        The interesting question is this: Should I read in order of publication, or in order of the story?

                        Having read through Alastair Reynolds' "Revelation Space" universe this summer in order of story, I think that might be a better option.

                        Chronological:

Prelude to Foundation (1988)
                        Forward the Foundation (1993)
                        Foundation (1951)
                        Foundation and Empire (1952)
                        Second Foundation (1953)
                        Foundation's Edge (1982)
                        Foundation and Earth (1986)

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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        @george-k said in Foundation:

                        The interesting question is this: Should I read in order of publication, or in order of the story?

                        I would always read in order of publication. There's a few gotcha's in there - particularly the tie-in with R. Daneel from the robot stories, which clearly Asimov hadn't thought about when he started the books.

                        I was only joking

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          @george-k said in Foundation:

                          The interesting question is this: Should I read in order of publication, or in order of the story?

                          I would always read in order of publication. There's a few gotcha's in there - particularly the tie-in with R. Daneel from the robot stories, which clearly Asimov hadn't thought about when he started the books.

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                          @doctor-phibes said in Foundation:

                          I would always read in order of publication.

                          Yeah, I get it.

                          Speaking from my "Revelation Space" experience, however, I'd disagree. There are SO many ideas that are talked about in the first-published books that make no sense, other than in a vague deus ex machina sense.
                          Reading them in chronological order was a better experience for me.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            @doctor-phibes said in Foundation:

                            I would always read in order of publication.

                            Yeah, I get it.

                            Speaking from my "Revelation Space" experience, however, I'd disagree. There are SO many ideas that are talked about in the first-published books that make no sense, other than in a vague deus ex machina sense.
                            Reading them in chronological order was a better experience for me.

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                            @george-k said in Foundation:

                            Speaking from my "Revelation Space" experience, however, I'd disagree. There are SO many ideas that are talked about in the first-published books that make no sense, other than in a vague deus ex machina sense.
                            Reading them in chronological order was a better experience for me.

                            Alastair Reynolds isn't Isaac Asimov. I suspect he put a lot more planning into the series. Foundation was supposed to be a trilogy, not the ever expanding series it became.

                            I was only joking

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              @george-k said in Foundation:

                              Speaking from my "Revelation Space" experience, however, I'd disagree. There are SO many ideas that are talked about in the first-published books that make no sense, other than in a vague deus ex machina sense.
                              Reading them in chronological order was a better experience for me.

                              Alastair Reynolds isn't Isaac Asimov. I suspect he put a lot more planning into the series. Foundation was supposed to be a trilogy, not the ever expanding series it became.

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                              @doctor-phibes said in Foundation:

                              Alastair Reynolds isn't Isaac Asimov.

                              Indeed. Very different.

                              But I love Reynolds.

                              Have you read his stuff?

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG George K

                                @doctor-phibes said in Foundation:

                                Alastair Reynolds isn't Isaac Asimov.

                                Indeed. Very different.

                                But I love Reynolds.

                                Have you read his stuff?

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                                @george-k said in Foundation:

                                @doctor-phibes said in Foundation:

                                Alastair Reynolds isn't Isaac Asimov.

                                Indeed. Very different.

                                But I love Reynolds.

                                Have you read his stuff?

                                No, but he's on my to-do list. I'm working my way through the Expanse series at the moment, rather slowly I'm afraid.

                                I was only joking

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                                  First two episodes aired last night. Has anyone watched?

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    First two episodes aired last night. Has anyone watched?

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                                    @george-k said in Foundation:

                                    First two episodes aired last night. Has anyone watched?

                                    Watching tonight.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                      Didn’t know. Will queue it up.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        Thoughts?

                                        I'm finding it, though engaging, "different." High production values, beautifully filmed.

                                        But...

                                        It just doesn't FEEL like Asimov's book(s). The series takes the concept of psychohistory and uses that as a springboard to tell a somewhat related story.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Haven't watched yet. Maybe queue it up tonight.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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