Final Debate
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@Jolly said in Final Debate:
@Axtremus said in Final Debate:
@Jolly said in Final Debate:
@LuFins-Dad said in Final Debate:
What does it matter anyway? Over 25% of the ballots are already cast.
Bad for the country. Good for many people, but bad for the country.
You yourself stated that there should be no “undecided voter” at this point, that anyone still “undecided” is too dumb to be allowed to vote anyway. If everyone should have “decided” already, then you have no ground to complain that they have already cast their ballots.
It's how they have cast their ballots - mail in for most - and the little things that do turn elections.
Reckon any voters are having buyer's remorse after finding out about The Big Man?
Gee, maybe Mike Pence should have waited longer less he finds out any new, last minute revelations about the candidates that would afflict hi with buyer’s remorse.
Pence casts early vote in person in Indianapolis
https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2020/10/23/trump-biden-live-updates/ -
@George-K said in Final Debate:
@Jolly said in Final Debate:
Reckon any voters are having buyer's remorse after finding out about The Big Man?
Of the 50 million votes cast, my guess that only about 10% are following this story at all. And for most of them, it matters not.
Since Joe's running against such a scrupulously honest and ethical businessman, surely any suggestion of impropriety could have a huge impact?
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Honestly the provenance of that story is too suspect for people not already submersed in right wing media and ideology. Add to that we have a quarter century of Biden’s tax returns that allow us to see his sources of income.
One of the problems with Trump spending so much time immersed in FoxNews, OANN, and right wing twitter is he’ll make references that are relatively obscure to those outside of it. (AOC plus three? How many suburban voters in PA know what that means?). This was an issue in him bringing up Hunter last night:
. All of the emails, the emails, the horrible emails of the kind of money that you were raking in, you and your family. And Joe, you were vice-president when some of this was happening, and it should have never happened. And I think you owe an explanation to the American people. Why is it—somebody just had a news conference a little while ago who was essentially supposed to work with you and your family, but what he said was damning
That was his attack.
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@jon-nyc said in Final Debate:
Honestly the provenance of that story is too suspect for people not already submersed in right wing media and ideology. Add to that we have a quarter century of Biden’s tax returns that allow us to see his sources of income.
One of the problems with Trump spending so much time immersed in FoxNews, OANN, and right wing twitter is he’ll make references that are relatively obscure to those outside of it. (AOC plus three? How many suburban voters in PA know what that means?). This was an issue in him bringing up Hunter last night:
. All of the emails, the emails, the horrible emails of the kind of money that you were raking in, you and your family. And Joe, you were vice-president when some of this was happening, and it should have never happened. And I think you owe an explanation to the American people. Why is it—somebody just had a news conference a little while ago who was essentially supposed to work with you and your family, but what he said was damning
That was his attack.
Two of Hunter's partners are in prison for money laundering. There is a there, there. Maybe The money has flowed into the Biden family, but not directly to Biden. Or maybe Biden got his cut under the table.
The lap top topic surfaced during the debate and millions of people who only watch the MSM went, "Why haven't I heard of this?"
It may not turn the election, but I don't think it is going away.
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@Jolly said in Final Debate:
Two of Hunter's partners are in prison for money laundering.
So are Trump’s former lawyer and former campaign manager.
Seems like those business partners are further removed from Joe than Manafort and Cohen were.
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The only reason that more of Trump's close associates aren't in jail is that he keeps pardoning them.
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@Axtremus said in Final Debate:
@Jolly said in Final Debate:
Two of Hunter's partners are in prison for money laundering.
Wow, you just have mentally blocked out the fact that a tremendous, absolutely tremendous number of Trump!s associates have gone to prison!
Those were Deep State prosecutions, Ax. And, may I remind you, a number of Jesus' associates were also imprisoned.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Final Debate:
@Axtremus said in Final Debate:
@Jolly said in Final Debate:
Two of Hunter's partners are in prison for money laundering.
Wow, you just have mentally blocked out the fact that a tremendous, absolutely tremendous number of Trump!s associates have gone to prison!
Those were Deep State prosecutions, Ax. And, may I remind you, a number of Jesus' associates were also imprisoned.
It’s a good point that by the “number of associates imprisoned” metric, Trump is closer to Jesus than Biden is.
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Transcript of the debate as
fabricatedpresented by Tim Urban.Chris Wallace: Good evening. I’m Chris Wallace and I welcome you to what I predict will be a very bad personal experience for me. There will be six 15-minute segments, each on a different topic. At the beginning of each segment, both candidates will get two uninterrupted minutes to respond. The remainder of the segment will be open discussion. The audience has agreed not to be trashy. Both campaigns have signed off on these rules, so for sure nothing will go wrong. And with that, let’s welcome the candidates.
[CANDIDATES ENTER]
Wallace: Let’s start with the Supreme Court. President Trump, you nominated Amy Coney Barrett to succeed the late Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the court. You say the Constitution is clear about your obligation to nominate someone to the court. Vice President Biden, you’ve called this an abuse of power. To start, why don’t you both explain your positions.Trump: Amy Coney Barrett is a perfect nominee. Conservatives love her. Liberals love her. Chris Wallace loves her.
Biden: Amy Barrett would repeal the Affordable Care Act. And besides, the new thing is that you have to wait until after the election to nominate someone.
Trump: Not sure what you’re talking about, because last I checked a presidential term is four years, not three. You want to instate Communist medicine.
Biden: I don’t want to instate Communist medicine. I want to expand Obamacare.
Trump: Your party wants to instate Communist medicine, and you’re scared of them.
Biden: I may be scared of them but I am the Democrat Party now, so even if I was and still am scared of them, I’m not anymore. They’ll do what I say now. And how about Covid? The president killed 200,000 people. Roe v. Wade.
Trump: You would have killed 2 million people by not banning China. Not Roe v. Wade.
Wallace: K let’s go back to healthcare for a minute. Mr. President, over the past four years you have promised to replace and repeal Obamacare, but you have never in these four years come up—
Trump: Yes I have.
Wallace: with a plan—
Trump: Of course I have.
Wallace: to—
Trump: Of course I have.
Wallace: replace—
Trump: I got rid of the individual mandate.
Wallace: Oba—
Trump: The individual mandate was a joke.
Wallace: macare.
Trump: The individual mandate was the worst part of Obamacare.
Wallace: I am the moder—
Trump: The individual mandate sucks dick.
(For the rest, goto https://waitbutwhy.com/2020/09/debate2020.html)