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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    Doctor Phibes
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    #30

    You've probably got the world's longest election campaigns. Voting a little early isn't going to change much.

    I was only joking

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @LuFins-Dad said in Final Debate:

      What does it matter anyway? Over 25% of the ballots are already cast.

      Bad for the country. Good for many people, but bad for the country.

      AxtremusA Offline
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      #31

      @Jolly said in Final Debate:

      @LuFins-Dad said in Final Debate:

      What does it matter anyway? Over 25% of the ballots are already cast.

      Bad for the country. Good for many people, but bad for the country.

      You yourself stated that there should be no “undecided voter” at this point, that anyone still “undecided” is too dumb to be allowed to vote anyway. If everyone should have “decided” already, then you have no ground to complain that they have already cast their ballots.

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
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        I am getting confused over one thing, though. Is Joe a puppet whose alzheimer’s rattled brain will allow his handlers to pull his strings or is he the criminal mastermind working with Russian Oligarchs and Chinese businesses to amass great wealth?

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          I am getting confused over one thing, though. Is Joe a puppet whose alzheimer’s rattled brain will allow his handlers to pull his strings or is he the criminal mastermind working with Russian Oligarchs and Chinese businesses to amass great wealth?

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          Axtremus
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          #33

          @LuFins-Dad said in Final Debate:

          I am getting confused over one thing, though. Is Joe a puppet whose alzheimer’s rattled brain will allow his handlers to pull his strings or is he the criminal mastermind working with Russian Oligarchs and Chinese businesses to amass great wealth?

          @LuFins-Dad, Joe is the savior through whom God will redeem the Republic and smite the Russian and Chinese neo-commies. If you really must believe that Joe cannot function without his “handlers,” know that Joe’s puppeteer is the Judeo-Christian God. Feel better now?

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #34

            Screen Shot 2020-10-23 at 7.19.37 AM.png

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              I am getting confused over one thing, though. Is Joe a puppet whose alzheimer’s rattled brain will allow his handlers to pull his strings or is he the criminal mastermind working with Russian Oligarchs and Chinese businesses to amass great wealth?

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              #35

              @LuFins-Dad said in Final Debate:

              I am getting confused over one thing, though. Is Joe a puppet whose alzheimer’s rattled brain will allow his handlers to pull his strings or is he the criminal mastermind working with Russian Oligarchs and Chinese businesses to amass great wealth?

              Yeah, that thought had crossed my mind too.

              On the plus side, there's a real chance that Donald Trump will once again show that he is greater than any of his predecessors. After all, how many presidents have successfully won election campaigns for both parties?

              I was only joking

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                @Jolly said in Final Debate:

                @LuFins-Dad said in Final Debate:

                What does it matter anyway? Over 25% of the ballots are already cast.

                Bad for the country. Good for many people, but bad for the country.

                You yourself stated that there should be no “undecided voter” at this point, that anyone still “undecided” is too dumb to be allowed to vote anyway. If everyone should have “decided” already, then you have no ground to complain that they have already cast their ballots.

                JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #36

                @Axtremus said in Final Debate:

                @Jolly said in Final Debate:

                @LuFins-Dad said in Final Debate:

                What does it matter anyway? Over 25% of the ballots are already cast.

                Bad for the country. Good for many people, but bad for the country.

                You yourself stated that there should be no “undecided voter” at this point, that anyone still “undecided” is too dumb to be allowed to vote anyway. If everyone should have “decided” already, then you have no ground to complain that they have already cast their ballots.

                It's how they have cast their ballots - mail in for most - and the little things that do turn elections.

                Reckon any voters are having buyer's remorse after finding out about The Big Man?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @Axtremus said in Final Debate:

                  @Jolly said in Final Debate:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Final Debate:

                  What does it matter anyway? Over 25% of the ballots are already cast.

                  Bad for the country. Good for many people, but bad for the country.

                  You yourself stated that there should be no “undecided voter” at this point, that anyone still “undecided” is too dumb to be allowed to vote anyway. If everyone should have “decided” already, then you have no ground to complain that they have already cast their ballots.

                  It's how they have cast their ballots - mail in for most - and the little things that do turn elections.

                  Reckon any voters are having buyer's remorse after finding out about The Big Man?

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                  George K
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                  #37

                  @Jolly said in Final Debate:

                  Reckon any voters are having buyer's remorse after finding out about The Big Man?

                  Of the 50 million votes cast, my guess that only about 10% are following this story at all. And for most of them, it matters not.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @Axtremus said in Final Debate:

                    @Jolly said in Final Debate:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Final Debate:

                    What does it matter anyway? Over 25% of the ballots are already cast.

                    Bad for the country. Good for many people, but bad for the country.

                    You yourself stated that there should be no “undecided voter” at this point, that anyone still “undecided” is too dumb to be allowed to vote anyway. If everyone should have “decided” already, then you have no ground to complain that they have already cast their ballots.

                    It's how they have cast their ballots - mail in for most - and the little things that do turn elections.

                    Reckon any voters are having buyer's remorse after finding out about The Big Man?

                    AxtremusA Offline
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                    #38

                    @Jolly said in Final Debate:

                    @Axtremus said in Final Debate:

                    @Jolly said in Final Debate:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Final Debate:

                    What does it matter anyway? Over 25% of the ballots are already cast.

                    Bad for the country. Good for many people, but bad for the country.

                    You yourself stated that there should be no “undecided voter” at this point, that anyone still “undecided” is too dumb to be allowed to vote anyway. If everyone should have “decided” already, then you have no ground to complain that they have already cast their ballots.

                    It's how they have cast their ballots - mail in for most - and the little things that do turn elections.

                    Reckon any voters are having buyer's remorse after finding out about The Big Man?

                    Gee, maybe Mike Pence should have waited longer less he finds out any new, last minute revelations about the candidates that would afflict hi with buyer’s remorse.

                    Pence casts early vote in person in Indianapolis
                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2020/10/23/trump-biden-live-updates/

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      #39

                      @George-K said in Final Debate:

                      @Jolly said in Final Debate:

                      Reckon any voters are having buyer's remorse after finding out about The Big Man?

                      Of the 50 million votes cast, my guess that only about 10% are following this story at all. And for most of them, it matters not.

                      Since Joe's running against such a scrupulously honest and ethical businessman, surely any suggestion of impropriety could have a huge impact?

                      I was only joking

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                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                        jon-nyc
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                        #40

                        Honestly the provenance of that story is too suspect for people not already submersed in right wing media and ideology. Add to that we have a quarter century of Biden’s tax returns that allow us to see his sources of income.

                        One of the problems with Trump spending so much time immersed in FoxNews, OANN, and right wing twitter is he’ll make references that are relatively obscure to those outside of it. (AOC plus three? How many suburban voters in PA know what that means?). This was an issue in him bringing up Hunter last night:

                        . All of the emails, the emails, the horrible emails of the kind of money that you were raking in, you and your family. And Joe, you were vice-president when some of this was happening, and it should have never happened. And I think you owe an explanation to the American people. Why is it—somebody just had a news conference a little while ago who was essentially supposed to work with you and your family, but what he said was damning

                        That was his attack.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Honestly the provenance of that story is too suspect for people not already submersed in right wing media and ideology. Add to that we have a quarter century of Biden’s tax returns that allow us to see his sources of income.

                          One of the problems with Trump spending so much time immersed in FoxNews, OANN, and right wing twitter is he’ll make references that are relatively obscure to those outside of it. (AOC plus three? How many suburban voters in PA know what that means?). This was an issue in him bringing up Hunter last night:

                          . All of the emails, the emails, the horrible emails of the kind of money that you were raking in, you and your family. And Joe, you were vice-president when some of this was happening, and it should have never happened. And I think you owe an explanation to the American people. Why is it—somebody just had a news conference a little while ago who was essentially supposed to work with you and your family, but what he said was damning

                          That was his attack.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #41

                          @jon-nyc said in Final Debate:

                          Honestly the provenance of that story is too suspect for people not already submersed in right wing media and ideology. Add to that we have a quarter century of Biden’s tax returns that allow us to see his sources of income.

                          One of the problems with Trump spending so much time immersed in FoxNews, OANN, and right wing twitter is he’ll make references that are relatively obscure to those outside of it. (AOC plus three? How many suburban voters in PA know what that means?). This was an issue in him bringing up Hunter last night:

                          . All of the emails, the emails, the horrible emails of the kind of money that you were raking in, you and your family. And Joe, you were vice-president when some of this was happening, and it should have never happened. And I think you owe an explanation to the American people. Why is it—somebody just had a news conference a little while ago who was essentially supposed to work with you and your family, but what he said was damning

                          That was his attack.

                          Two of Hunter's partners are in prison for money laundering. There is a there, there. Maybe The money has flowed into the Biden family, but not directly to Biden. Or maybe Biden got his cut under the table.

                          The lap top topic surfaced during the debate and millions of people who only watch the MSM went, "Why haven't I heard of this?"

                          It may not turn the election, but I don't think it is going away.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            Mik
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                            Link to video

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Jolly
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                              #43

                              Yep, put that up yesterday.

                              Noticed some folks have avoided it...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                I haven't been able to watch the whole thing yet.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  wrote on last edited by
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                                  FOX was the only network to cover any of it.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    Hey Larry, who won the debate?

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                                    #46

                                    @jon-nyc said in Final Debate:

                                    Hey Larry, who won the debate?

                                    Bumped. The tension, given the complete unpredictability of the answer, is palpable.

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      @jon-nyc said in Final Debate:

                                      Honestly the provenance of that story is too suspect for people not already submersed in right wing media and ideology. Add to that we have a quarter century of Biden’s tax returns that allow us to see his sources of income.

                                      One of the problems with Trump spending so much time immersed in FoxNews, OANN, and right wing twitter is he’ll make references that are relatively obscure to those outside of it. (AOC plus three? How many suburban voters in PA know what that means?). This was an issue in him bringing up Hunter last night:

                                      . All of the emails, the emails, the horrible emails of the kind of money that you were raking in, you and your family. And Joe, you were vice-president when some of this was happening, and it should have never happened. And I think you owe an explanation to the American people. Why is it—somebody just had a news conference a little while ago who was essentially supposed to work with you and your family, but what he said was damning

                                      That was his attack.

                                      Two of Hunter's partners are in prison for money laundering. There is a there, there. Maybe The money has flowed into the Biden family, but not directly to Biden. Or maybe Biden got his cut under the table.

                                      The lap top topic surfaced during the debate and millions of people who only watch the MSM went, "Why haven't I heard of this?"

                                      It may not turn the election, but I don't think it is going away.

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      #47

                                      @Jolly said in Final Debate:

                                      Two of Hunter's partners are in prison for money laundering.

                                      So are Trump’s former lawyer and former campaign manager.

                                      Seems like those business partners are further removed from Joe than Manafort and Cohen were.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        #48

                                        That isn’t run-of-the-mill whattaboutism, rather the point is I don’t see how those former business partners of Hunter being in jail can really affect any of this.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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