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    Axtremus
    wrote on 23 Oct 2020, 02:48 last edited by
    #21

    Trump talked quite a few times about the Bidens' supposed deals with foreign entities, accusing the Bidens of taking money from foreign entities. Biden denied having done so.

    The moderator, as best she could, pulled the debate back to policy matters.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 23 Oct 2020, 02:52 last edited by
      #22

      Hey Larry, who won the debate?

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 23 Oct 2020, 03:42 last edited by
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        From what I glean from Twitter there doesn’t seem to be anything about this debate that will still be a subject of discussion in 48 hours.

        Agree? Disagree?

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          Mik
          wrote on 23 Oct 2020, 11:18 last edited by
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          Agreed. Neither one did great or particularly badly. Biden did show pretty convincingly that the dementia thing is nonsense. Trump hammered on him pretty well on some key issues, but at other times went a bit off the rails on tiny, meaningless things.

          The number of people that have early voted so far is a stunner.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 23 Oct 2020, 11:30 last edited by
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            Trump: "We've rounded the corner [on coronavirus] - it's going away"

            That's clearly complete bullshit.

            Biden: "The coronavirus spikes are in red states"

            That's bullshit too.

            I wish these assholes could be honest about something this important.

            I was only joking

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              Mik
              wrote on 23 Oct 2020, 11:36 last edited by
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              Yeah, and that was the very next sentence after Biden said "I don't see things in red and blue states, I see the United States".

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Mik
                wrote on 23 Oct 2020, 11:37 last edited by
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                The other weakness was his claim that he would lock down the virus, not the country. No detail whatsoever. in short, they will both do the same things.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 23 Oct 2020, 11:40 last edited by
                  #28

                  What does it matter anyway? Over 25% of the ballots are already cast.

                  The Brad

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                    23 Oct 2020, 11:40

                    What does it matter anyway? Over 25% of the ballots are already cast.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 23 Oct 2020, 11:45 last edited by
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                    @LuFins-Dad said in Final Debate:

                    What does it matter anyway? Over 25% of the ballots are already cast.

                    Bad for the country. Good for many people, but bad for the country.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 23 Oct 2020, 11:59 last edited by
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                      You've probably got the world's longest election campaigns. Voting a little early isn't going to change much.

                      I was only joking

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                        23 Oct 2020, 11:45

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Final Debate:

                        What does it matter anyway? Over 25% of the ballots are already cast.

                        Bad for the country. Good for many people, but bad for the country.

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                        Axtremus
                        wrote on 23 Oct 2020, 12:01 last edited by
                        #31

                        @Jolly said in Final Debate:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Final Debate:

                        What does it matter anyway? Over 25% of the ballots are already cast.

                        Bad for the country. Good for many people, but bad for the country.

                        You yourself stated that there should be no “undecided voter” at this point, that anyone still “undecided” is too dumb to be allowed to vote anyway. If everyone should have “decided” already, then you have no ground to complain that they have already cast their ballots.

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 23 Oct 2020, 12:06 last edited by
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                          I am getting confused over one thing, though. Is Joe a puppet whose alzheimer’s rattled brain will allow his handlers to pull his strings or is he the criminal mastermind working with Russian Oligarchs and Chinese businesses to amass great wealth?

                          The Brad

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                            23 Oct 2020, 12:06

                            I am getting confused over one thing, though. Is Joe a puppet whose alzheimer’s rattled brain will allow his handlers to pull his strings or is he the criminal mastermind working with Russian Oligarchs and Chinese businesses to amass great wealth?

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                            Axtremus
                            wrote on 23 Oct 2020, 12:17 last edited by
                            #33

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Final Debate:

                            I am getting confused over one thing, though. Is Joe a puppet whose alzheimer’s rattled brain will allow his handlers to pull his strings or is he the criminal mastermind working with Russian Oligarchs and Chinese businesses to amass great wealth?

                            @LuFins-Dad, Joe is the savior through whom God will redeem the Republic and smite the Russian and Chinese neo-commies. If you really must believe that Joe cannot function without his “handlers,” know that Joe’s puppeteer is the Judeo-Christian God. Feel better now?

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                              George K
                              wrote on 23 Oct 2020, 12:20 last edited by
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                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • L LuFins Dad
                                23 Oct 2020, 12:06

                                I am getting confused over one thing, though. Is Joe a puppet whose alzheimer’s rattled brain will allow his handlers to pull his strings or is he the criminal mastermind working with Russian Oligarchs and Chinese businesses to amass great wealth?

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 23 Oct 2020, 12:32 last edited by
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                                @LuFins-Dad said in Final Debate:

                                I am getting confused over one thing, though. Is Joe a puppet whose alzheimer’s rattled brain will allow his handlers to pull his strings or is he the criminal mastermind working with Russian Oligarchs and Chinese businesses to amass great wealth?

                                Yeah, that thought had crossed my mind too.

                                On the plus side, there's a real chance that Donald Trump will once again show that he is greater than any of his predecessors. After all, how many presidents have successfully won election campaigns for both parties?

                                I was only joking

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                                  23 Oct 2020, 12:01

                                  @Jolly said in Final Debate:

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Final Debate:

                                  What does it matter anyway? Over 25% of the ballots are already cast.

                                  Bad for the country. Good for many people, but bad for the country.

                                  You yourself stated that there should be no “undecided voter” at this point, that anyone still “undecided” is too dumb to be allowed to vote anyway. If everyone should have “decided” already, then you have no ground to complain that they have already cast their ballots.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 23 Oct 2020, 12:39 last edited by
                                  #36

                                  @Axtremus said in Final Debate:

                                  @Jolly said in Final Debate:

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Final Debate:

                                  What does it matter anyway? Over 25% of the ballots are already cast.

                                  Bad for the country. Good for many people, but bad for the country.

                                  You yourself stated that there should be no “undecided voter” at this point, that anyone still “undecided” is too dumb to be allowed to vote anyway. If everyone should have “decided” already, then you have no ground to complain that they have already cast their ballots.

                                  It's how they have cast their ballots - mail in for most - and the little things that do turn elections.

                                  Reckon any voters are having buyer's remorse after finding out about The Big Man?

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • J Jolly
                                    23 Oct 2020, 12:39

                                    @Axtremus said in Final Debate:

                                    @Jolly said in Final Debate:

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Final Debate:

                                    What does it matter anyway? Over 25% of the ballots are already cast.

                                    Bad for the country. Good for many people, but bad for the country.

                                    You yourself stated that there should be no “undecided voter” at this point, that anyone still “undecided” is too dumb to be allowed to vote anyway. If everyone should have “decided” already, then you have no ground to complain that they have already cast their ballots.

                                    It's how they have cast their ballots - mail in for most - and the little things that do turn elections.

                                    Reckon any voters are having buyer's remorse after finding out about The Big Man?

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 23 Oct 2020, 12:42 last edited by
                                    #37

                                    @Jolly said in Final Debate:

                                    Reckon any voters are having buyer's remorse after finding out about The Big Man?

                                    Of the 50 million votes cast, my guess that only about 10% are following this story at all. And for most of them, it matters not.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • J Jolly
                                      23 Oct 2020, 12:39

                                      @Axtremus said in Final Debate:

                                      @Jolly said in Final Debate:

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Final Debate:

                                      What does it matter anyway? Over 25% of the ballots are already cast.

                                      Bad for the country. Good for many people, but bad for the country.

                                      You yourself stated that there should be no “undecided voter” at this point, that anyone still “undecided” is too dumb to be allowed to vote anyway. If everyone should have “decided” already, then you have no ground to complain that they have already cast their ballots.

                                      It's how they have cast their ballots - mail in for most - and the little things that do turn elections.

                                      Reckon any voters are having buyer's remorse after finding out about The Big Man?

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on 23 Oct 2020, 12:43 last edited by
                                      #38

                                      @Jolly said in Final Debate:

                                      @Axtremus said in Final Debate:

                                      @Jolly said in Final Debate:

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Final Debate:

                                      What does it matter anyway? Over 25% of the ballots are already cast.

                                      Bad for the country. Good for many people, but bad for the country.

                                      You yourself stated that there should be no “undecided voter” at this point, that anyone still “undecided” is too dumb to be allowed to vote anyway. If everyone should have “decided” already, then you have no ground to complain that they have already cast their ballots.

                                      It's how they have cast their ballots - mail in for most - and the little things that do turn elections.

                                      Reckon any voters are having buyer's remorse after finding out about The Big Man?

                                      Gee, maybe Mike Pence should have waited longer less he finds out any new, last minute revelations about the candidates that would afflict hi with buyer’s remorse.

                                      Pence casts early vote in person in Indianapolis
                                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2020/10/23/trump-biden-live-updates/

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                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on 23 Oct 2020, 12:45 last edited by
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                                        @George-K said in Final Debate:

                                        @Jolly said in Final Debate:

                                        Reckon any voters are having buyer's remorse after finding out about The Big Man?

                                        Of the 50 million votes cast, my guess that only about 10% are following this story at all. And for most of them, it matters not.

                                        Since Joe's running against such a scrupulously honest and ethical businessman, surely any suggestion of impropriety could have a huge impact?

                                        I was only joking

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 23 Oct 2020, 12:48 last edited by
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                                          Honestly the provenance of that story is too suspect for people not already submersed in right wing media and ideology. Add to that we have a quarter century of Biden’s tax returns that allow us to see his sources of income.

                                          One of the problems with Trump spending so much time immersed in FoxNews, OANN, and right wing twitter is he’ll make references that are relatively obscure to those outside of it. (AOC plus three? How many suburban voters in PA know what that means?). This was an issue in him bringing up Hunter last night:

                                          . All of the emails, the emails, the horrible emails of the kind of money that you were raking in, you and your family. And Joe, you were vice-president when some of this was happening, and it should have never happened. And I think you owe an explanation to the American people. Why is it—somebody just had a news conference a little while ago who was essentially supposed to work with you and your family, but what he said was damning

                                          That was his attack.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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