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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #21

    Dead certainties if Biden is elected...

    1. My taxes will go up.
    2. My Second Amendment rights will be infringed.
    3. My slide into second class citizen - since I am Caucasian - will be accelerated.
    4. My state's economy will be severely impacted as Biden chokes down the oil and gas industry.
    5. My next car will cost a good bit more, as Biden tightens fuel standards.
    6. Most importantly, the country's laws will continue a leftist shift, as Biden nominated activist judges to the bench.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

      Probably about half the people on this forum will be unhappy on US election night as their preferred candidate will not have won.

      So, my question is:

      If your preferred candidate does not win, how do you REALISTICALLY think that your life will change?

      Maybe look two years down the road. I am looking for things that you think will "materially" change, not just mental.

      Because, I am sure a lot of people will respond:

      "If President Trump is re-elected, the US will go down the path of dictators, no rights for immigrants or gay people, etc."
      "If VP Biden is elected, the US will become communist and there will be anarchy in the streets"

      For me, I cannot see anything that will change that will impact me. For me, somewhat unique in being outside the US, but in talking to my friends back in the US from both sides, pretty much most of the change they say will be more mental than actual.

      How about you guys? How will your life change?

      KincaidK Offline
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      Kincaid
      wrote on last edited by Kincaid
      #22

      @taiwan_girl said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:

      How about you guys? How will your life change?

      1. I am worried I will have to work longer if my retirement savings go in the toilet.

      2. I am worried that in my last 20-30 years on this earth I will have to go to re-education camp.

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      • KincaidK Kincaid

        @taiwan_girl said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:

        How about you guys? How will your life change?

        1. I am worried I will have to work longer if my retirement savings go in the toilet.

        2. I am worried that in my last 20-30 years on this earth I will have to go to re-education camp.

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        taiwan_girl
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        #23

        @Kincaid I know history is not a prediction of the future, but why do you think #1 is worrying ? There was an interesting discussion a week or so ago on this. My statement was that historically, on average, measures of the economy did not show a major difference between Presidents. In fact, historical stock market returns are higher under Democrat’s than Republics.

        The US system seems to move Presdients to the center.

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        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          Doctor Phibes
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          #24

          There's no way they'll bother re-educating Kincaid at his age. It's the soylent green farms for him.

          I was only joking

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          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            @Kincaid I know history is not a prediction of the future, but why do you think #1 is worrying ? There was an interesting discussion a week or so ago on this. My statement was that historically, on average, measures of the economy did not show a major difference between Presidents. In fact, historical stock market returns are higher under Democrat’s than Republics.

            The US system seems to move Presdients to the center.

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            Larry
            wrote on last edited by
            #25

            @taiwan_girl said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:

            In fact, historical stock market returns are higher under Democrat’s than Republics.

            Do you know why? Hint : it's not because a Democrat got in office...

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            • LarryL Larry

              @taiwan_girl said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:

              In fact, historical stock market returns are higher under Democrat’s than Republics.

              Do you know why? Hint : it's not because a Democrat got in office...

              taiwan_girlT Offline
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              taiwan_girl
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              #26

              @Larry said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:

              @taiwan_girl said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:

              In fact, historical stock market returns are higher under Democrat’s than Republics.

              Do you know why? Hint : it's not because a Democrat got in office...

              ???

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                There's no way they'll bother re-educating Kincaid at his age. It's the soylent green farms for him.

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                Kincaid
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                #27

                @Doctor-Phibes said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:

                There's no way they'll bother re-educating Kincaid at his age. It's the soylent green farms for him.

                👻

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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  @Kincaid I know history is not a prediction of the future, but why do you think #1 is worrying ? There was an interesting discussion a week or so ago on this. My statement was that historically, on average, measures of the economy did not show a major difference between Presidents. In fact, historical stock market returns are higher under Democrat’s than Republics.

                  The US system seems to move Presdients to the center.

                  KincaidK Offline
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                  Kincaid
                  wrote on last edited by Kincaid
                  #28

                  @taiwan_girl said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:

                  @Kincaid I know history is not a prediction of the future, but why do you think #1 is worrying ? There was an interesting discussion a week or so ago on this. My statement was that historically, on average, measures of the economy did not show a major difference between Presidents. In fact, historical stock market returns are higher under Democrat’s than Republics.

                  The US system seems to move Presdients to the center.

                  The bear markets and the great recession might not care what president is at the helm, but I am in a place where if another 2008 followed by another "Obama" recovery happened I would be living very poor indeed in 10 years. IIRC, it took about 6 or 8 years for my 401k to get back to where it was in 2008 after it was cut in half or worse.

                  Also, it seems to me the timing has just been unlucky for Republican Presidents. If 9/11 had happened in the last year of Clinton's presidency, if the dot.com boom had ramped up a couple years later, if Clinton's policies hadn't overheated the housing market setting up the 2008 fall...

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #29

                    @Kincaid , my guy at Fidelity says that, in the long run, the markets don't care about who's in the office. What they care about is 1) stability, 2) predictability.

                    If they can know what's going to happen, they can deal with it. If they can't predict, they hope it stays the same.

                    Don't know if that's totally true or not, but it makes sense.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • KincaidK Offline
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                      Kincaid
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                      #30

                      I am concerned where the Nat'l debt will be after this next stimulus AND where will Joe take us. He has promised a lot of expensive programs. Eeek.

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                      • LarryL Offline
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                        Larry
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                        #31

                        If Biden wins I'm going to sell everything while people can still get money.

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                        • LarryL Larry

                          If Biden wins I'm going to sell everything while people can still get money.

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                          xenon
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #32

                          @Larry said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:

                          If Biden wins I'm going to sell everything while people can still get money.

                          I think you predicted the same thing at the bottom of the “Obama market”

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                          • LarryL Offline
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                            Larry
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #33

                            We haven't finished digging out from under the damage Obama did yet.

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                            • LarryL Larry

                              We haven't finished digging out from under the damage Obama did yet.

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                              xenon
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                              #34

                              @Larry said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:

                              We haven't finished digging out from under the damage Obama did yet.

                              True - at least we’ve almost paid the debt off.

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                #35

                                We're still paying for Iraq,.

                                Some people paid quite a bit more, obviously.

                                I was only joking

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                                • LarryL Offline
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                                  Larry
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #36

                                  You both are missing the point. I'm not talking about money.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @Kincaid , my guy at Fidelity says that, in the long run, the markets don't care about who's in the office. What they care about is 1) stability, 2) predictability.

                                    If they can know what's going to happen, they can deal with it. If they can't predict, they hope it stays the same.

                                    Don't know if that's totally true or not, but it makes sense.

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                                    taiwan_girl
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #37

                                    @George-K said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:

                                    @Kincaid , my guy at Fidelity says that, in the long run, the markets don't care about who's in the office. What they care about is 1) stability, 2) predictability.

                                    If they can know what's going to happen, they can deal with it. If they can't predict, they hope it stays the same.

                                    Don't know if that's totally true or not, but it makes sense.

                                    Agree 100%. At the other forum board, I mentioned that I had one time had a conversation with the head of PTT organization in Thailand. This is a global Fortune 100 company. We were talking about oil prices and politics and how they affect business. And he basically said as George says - stability is more important than the actual who is in power.

                                    If they have a sense of that the next future years will be the same as the current, that is most important.

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                                      Jolly
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                                      Tell therefore guys in the oil business about fracking.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        Tell therefore guys in the oil business about fracking.

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                                        taiwan_girl
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #39

                                        @Jolly said in How Will Your Life Change if..........:

                                        Tell therefore guys in the oil business about fracking.

                                        This is a gentleman who runs a $100billion yearly company. There is not fracking in Thailand (that I know) but I am sure they look at the impact on world oil prices.

                                        If oil prices remain low and they know they will remain low, that is more important than the price jumping from $25 to $100 and back and forth.

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                                          The thing is Biden has shot his mouth off about a whole lot of stuff that will never, ever get through Congress. He also has the benefit of not having to actually deliver since no one really expects him to complete his term.

                                          He's still running on 'I'm not HIM!'.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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