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    George K
    wrote on 2 Jan 2021, 14:10 last edited by
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    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-problem-of-long-haul-covid/

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 2 Jan 2021, 16:20 last edited by
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      Horrible frigging lottery.

      The Brad

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        Horace
        wrote on 2 Jan 2021, 17:32 last edited by
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        I'm sorry you and your daughter are continuing to go through this George.

        Education is extremely important.

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          Rainman
          wrote on 2 Jan 2021, 19:55 last edited by
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          This freakin disease is like a pit bull with a bone. So sorry to hear of the continuation of misery. Why won't this disease leave her alone, what's so special and unique about your daughter that it just hangs around, flaring up and won't go away?

          George, don't answer. I'm just venting, and frustrated as is everyone here that holds you, and by extension your loved ones, in their thoughts and prayers right now.

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            George K
            wrote on 2 Jan 2021, 21:59 last edited by
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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              2 Jan 2021, 21:59

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              brenda
              wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 00:34 last edited by
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              @george-k
              Hugs to both of you.

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                Friday
                wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 00:37 last edited by
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                What Rainman and Brenda said.

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                  Copper
                  wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 03:12 last edited by
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                  Send her a treat, something she can eat, or a book, or a warm blanket or a game or something.

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                    jodi
                    wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 15:08 last edited by
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                    I am so sorry she is still having issues, how incredibly frustrating.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 15:18 last edited by
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                      Screen Shot 2021-01-03 at 9.18.35 AM.png

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        kluurs
                        wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 15:38 last edited by
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                        Wow, this infection just doesn’t give up.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 15:47 last edited by Jolly 1 Mar 2021, 15:49
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                          In some people.

                          I think that's what it makes this disease so hard to understand...With most disease states, there are typical symptoms that are universal. Maybe not all, but common partials.

                          This virus does the damndest things. Two people, similar genetic make-up, similar environments. Dissimilar symptoms. It's frustrating for the patient and frustrating for the healthcare providers.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            kluurs
                            wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 18:25 last edited by
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                            @jolly said in Symptoms:

                            This virus does the damndest things. Two people, similar genetic make-up, similar environments. Dissimilar symptoms. It's frustrating for the patient and frustrating for the healthcare providers.

                            About a dozen years ago, I was training for a marathon - and in great shape. I came down with a virus about a week before the marathon. I went from being able to run 20+ miles at a time to not being able to walk more than a couple hundred feet. For months, my wife would drive me to work - leave me at the door. I only had to walk about 150 feet to my office. I'd get to my office and have to sit for half an hour of rest before I was capable of doing anything. It took a long while to recover. I remember needing to go to a pharmacy which was about 4 doors down from my building. I took the elevator down to the street, walked to the front of the building - and knew I'd never make it to the pharmacy and back - so I returned to my office.

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                              @jolly said in Symptoms:

                              This virus does the damndest things. Two people, similar genetic make-up, similar environments. Dissimilar symptoms. It's frustrating for the patient and frustrating for the healthcare providers.

                              About a dozen years ago, I was training for a marathon - and in great shape. I came down with a virus about a week before the marathon. I went from being able to run 20+ miles at a time to not being able to walk more than a couple hundred feet. For months, my wife would drive me to work - leave me at the door. I only had to walk about 150 feet to my office. I'd get to my office and have to sit for half an hour of rest before I was capable of doing anything. It took a long while to recover. I remember needing to go to a pharmacy which was about 4 doors down from my building. I took the elevator down to the street, walked to the front of the building - and knew I'd never make it to the pharmacy and back - so I returned to my office.

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                              Loki
                              wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 19:38 last edited by
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                              @kluurs said in Symptoms:

                              @jolly said in Symptoms:

                              This virus does the damndest things. Two people, similar genetic make-up, similar environments. Dissimilar symptoms. It's frustrating for the patient and frustrating for the healthcare providers.

                              About a dozen years ago, I was training for a marathon - and in great shape. I came down with a virus about a week before the marathon. I went from being able to run 20+ miles at a time to not being able to walk more than a couple hundred feet. For months, my wife would drive me to work - leave me at the door. I only had to walk about 150 feet to my office. I'd get to my office and have to sit for half an hour of rest before I was capable of doing anything. It took a long while to recover. I remember needing to go to a pharmacy which was about 4 doors down from my building. I took the elevator down to the street, walked to the front of the building - and knew I'd never make it to the pharmacy and back - so I returned to my office.

                              That was my Lyme Disease experience for a month. 20 mile runs to nothing.

                              Doxycycline was magic but it took all thirty days. And then it took months to get back to where I had been running.

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                                Rainman
                                wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 20:22 last edited by
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                                On Bret Weinstein's podcast yesterday, they spent some time talking about the medication Ivermectin. Low cost, known for a long time, free in 19 African countries. They were pissed that Twitter pulled all links to the article.

                                Ivermectin. Weinstein is no dummy, nor is his wife Heather. Both hold Ph.D.'s in biology. Everything is politicized, and then follow the money if you can, and try to combine the two while the media ignores all, and social media is policed on what is allowed to be covered. Jesus.

                                Ivermectin. Anybody heard of it, especially you docs? Hope I spelled it right.

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                                  3 Jan 2021, 20:22

                                  On Bret Weinstein's podcast yesterday, they spent some time talking about the medication Ivermectin. Low cost, known for a long time, free in 19 African countries. They were pissed that Twitter pulled all links to the article.

                                  Ivermectin. Weinstein is no dummy, nor is his wife Heather. Both hold Ph.D.'s in biology. Everything is politicized, and then follow the money if you can, and try to combine the two while the media ignores all, and social media is policed on what is allowed to be covered. Jesus.

                                  Ivermectin. Anybody heard of it, especially you docs? Hope I spelled it right.

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                                  jodi
                                  wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 20:53 last edited by jodi 1 Mar 2021, 21:02
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                                  @rainman it’s a horse dewormer, very common in the veterinary/ horse world. My horse gets it orally a couple of times a year.

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                                    3 Jan 2021, 20:22

                                    On Bret Weinstein's podcast yesterday, they spent some time talking about the medication Ivermectin. Low cost, known for a long time, free in 19 African countries. They were pissed that Twitter pulled all links to the article.

                                    Ivermectin. Weinstein is no dummy, nor is his wife Heather. Both hold Ph.D.'s in biology. Everything is politicized, and then follow the money if you can, and try to combine the two while the media ignores all, and social media is policed on what is allowed to be covered. Jesus.

                                    Ivermectin. Anybody heard of it, especially you docs? Hope I spelled it right.

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                                    jodi
                                    wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 21:00 last edited by
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                                    @rainman based on what I just read, it’s approved for use in humans for external parasites like head lice. It’s used for internal parasites (worms and bots) in horses. Possible Human side effects :

                                    Some of the side-effects that may be associated with ivermectin include skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events (dizziness, seizures, confusion), sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury (hepatitis). Laboratory test abnormalities include decrease in white cell count and elevated liver tests.

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                                      3 Jan 2021, 21:00

                                      @rainman based on what I just read, it’s approved for use in humans for external parasites like head lice. It’s used for internal parasites (worms and bots) in horses. Possible Human side effects :

                                      Some of the side-effects that may be associated with ivermectin include skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events (dizziness, seizures, confusion), sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury (hepatitis). Laboratory test abnormalities include decrease in white cell count and elevated liver tests.

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                                      Rainman
                                      wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 21:15 last edited by
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                                      @jodi said in Symptoms:

                                      @rainman based on what I just read, it’s approved for use in humans for external parasites like head lice. It’s used for internal parasites (worms and bots) in horses. Possible Human side effects :

                                      Some of the side-effects that may be associated with ivermectin include skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events (dizziness, seizures, confusion), sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury (hepatitis). Laboratory test abnormalities include decrease in white cell count and elevated liver tests.

                                      So in other words, perfect!
                                      Thanks, Jodi. I wish I could find the link to the article. I'll try.

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                                        3 Jan 2021, 20:22

                                        On Bret Weinstein's podcast yesterday, they spent some time talking about the medication Ivermectin. Low cost, known for a long time, free in 19 African countries. They were pissed that Twitter pulled all links to the article.

                                        Ivermectin. Weinstein is no dummy, nor is his wife Heather. Both hold Ph.D.'s in biology. Everything is politicized, and then follow the money if you can, and try to combine the two while the media ignores all, and social media is policed on what is allowed to be covered. Jesus.

                                        Ivermectin. Anybody heard of it, especially you docs? Hope I spelled it right.

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 3 Jan 2021, 21:20 last edited by
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                                        @rainman said in Symptoms:

                                        On Bret Weinstein's podcast yesterday, they spent some time talking about the medication Ivermectin. Low cost, known for a long time, free in 19 African countries. They were pissed that Twitter pulled all links to the article.

                                        Ivermectin. Weinstein is no dummy, nor is his wife Heather. Both hold Ph.D.'s in biology. Everything is politicized, and then follow the money if you can, and try to combine the two while the media ignores all, and social media is policed on what is allowed to be covered. Jesus.

                                        Ivermectin. Anybody heard of it, especially you docs? Hope I spelled it right.

                                        The treatment has been talked about for two or three months, at least.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          Rainman
                                          wrote on 4 Jan 2021, 00:45 last edited by
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                                          @jolly said in Symptoms:

                                          Ivermectin

                                          "Paul Marik, MD, FCCM, FCCP, founder of the alliance and a professor and chief of the division of pulmonary and critical care medicine at Eastern Virginia Medical School, said that ivermectin “is a safe drug that is exceedingly cheap.”
                                          "He added that “what is truly remarkable — this was a gift to us — ivermectin has high activity against COVID-19.”

                                          "In a press conference, researchers said that ivermectin is an FDA-approved anti-parasitic drug that has been available for approximately 40 years and previously earned researchers a Nobel Prize.

                                          "Ivermectin is a key factor in the alliance’s I-MASK+ protocol for prophylaxis and early treatment of outpatients with COVID-19."

                                          https://www.healio.com/news/primary-care/20201208/this-was-a-gift-to-us-ivermectin-effective-for-covid19-prophylaxis-treatment

                                          I won't derail this thread. If there is interest, it could be a new thread.

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