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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    Interesting thread. But you still won’t really get it.

    You were warned.

    George KG 1 Reply Last reply
    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      Interesting thread. But you still won’t really get it.

      George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #2

      @jon-nyc said in Sean Carroll explains Robert Penrose’s Nobel work:

      But you still won’t really get it.

      I've tried to read Hawking's "Brief History of Time" at least three times. I've either given up or lost all comprehension about halfway through, each time.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        #3

        Well, on the bright side, you can definitely get all the way through Carroll’s tweet thread.

        I read it twice. The tweet thread, that is.

        You were warned.

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        • George KG Offline
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          getting through ≠ comprehension

          I "got through" BHoT" twice.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K

            getting through ≠ comprehension

            I "got through" BHoT" twice.

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            @George-K said in Sean Carroll explains Robert Penrose’s Nobel work:

            getting through ≠ comprehension

            I "got through" BHoT" twice.

            And comprehension ≠ owning

            Tiger Woods says

            "Only two players have ever truly owned their swings: Moe Norman and Ben Hogan."

            Tiger says even he doesn't own it, there is still that little bit of mystery.

            Black holes, for the moment, are like that.

            And don't forget the problem with racism.

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              @George-K said in Sean Carroll explains Robert Penrose’s Nobel work:

              getting through ≠ comprehension

              I "got through" BHoT" twice.

              And comprehension ≠ owning

              Tiger Woods says

              "Only two players have ever truly owned their swings: Moe Norman and Ben Hogan."

              Tiger says even he doesn't own it, there is still that little bit of mystery.

              Black holes, for the moment, are like that.

              And don't forget the problem with racism.

              George KG Offline
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              George K
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              @Copper said in Sean Carroll explains Robert Penrose’s Nobel work:

              And don't forget the problem with racism.

              I can't find the story now (and I've looked). Apparently when the term "black hole" was proposed, there were some French (iirc) scientists who objected to the name because it had, well, objectionable connotations (fucking snowflakes, even then). They suggested "Dark Star" would be a less tasteless name (though, in today's climate, that might be offensive too!).

              They didn't prevail.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                I thought it was one of those sick tncr jokes.

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                • George KG George K

                  @jon-nyc said in Sean Carroll explains Robert Penrose’s Nobel work:

                  But you still won’t really get it.

                  I've tried to read Hawking's "Brief History of Time" at least three times. I've either given up or lost all comprehension about halfway through, each time.

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                  @George-K said in Sean Carroll explains Robert Penrose’s Nobel work:

                  I've either given up or lost all comprehension about halfway through, each time.

                  You got further along than I did; about a third of the way for me. Then I dipped into the thing he co-wrote with I forget his name, supposedly a clarification of BHoT, and didn't do much better. So I said to heck with it, there are things ordinary brains are not meant to grasp. I'm okay with that.

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  • Catseye3C Catseye3

                    @George-K said in Sean Carroll explains Robert Penrose’s Nobel work:

                    I've either given up or lost all comprehension about halfway through, each time.

                    You got further along than I did; about a third of the way for me. Then I dipped into the thing he co-wrote with I forget his name, supposedly a clarification of BHoT, and didn't do much better. So I said to heck with it, there are things ordinary brains are not meant to grasp. I'm okay with that.

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                    @Catseye3 said in Sean Carroll explains Robert Penrose’s Nobel work:

                    @George-K said in Sean Carroll explains Robert Penrose’s Nobel work:

                    I've either given up or lost all comprehension about halfway through, each time.

                    You got further along than I did; about a third of the way for me. Then I dipped into the thing he co-wrote with I forget his name, supposedly a clarification of BHoT, and didn't do much better. So I said to heck with it, there are things ordinary brains are not meant to grasp. I'm perfectly happy with that.

                    LOL +1

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                      #10

                      Long Twitter threads + threadreader + Pocket + eReader with Pocket integration = the move.

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                        You were warned.

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                          https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2020/10/nobel-prize-winner-says-there-were-universes-before-the-big-bang-and-we-can-see-the-evidence/

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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