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  • George KG George K

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump to quarantine awaiting Covid test:

    That's pretty much exactly what I was talking about yesterday. Wearing a mask is a sign of weakness? Seriously?
    Being a fucking imbecile is no excuse for this kind of thing.

    "The Science" tells us that wearing a mask doesn't prevent you from getting infected. It tells us that wearing a mask prevent you from infecting others.

    So, which "fucking imbecile" gave it to Trump?

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    Doctor Phibes
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    #173

    @George-K said in Trump to quarantine awaiting Covid test:

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump to quarantine awaiting Covid test:

    That's pretty much exactly what I was talking about yesterday. Wearing a mask is a sign of weakness? Seriously?
    Being a fucking imbecile is no excuse for this kind of thing.

    "The Science" tells us that wearing a mask doesn't prevent you from getting infected. It tells us that wearing a mask prevent you from infecting others.

    So, which "fucking imbecile" gave it to Trump?

    To clarify, the fucking imbecile I was referring to was the writer of the article in the Federalist who implied that to wear a mask was a sign of weakness.

    I was only joking

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      George K
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      #174

      If you needed more proof that Jim Acosta is a douchebag, here you go:

      The man is on the way to the hospital, and Acosta complains about no questions.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        LuFins Dad
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        #175

        I think he was being snarky more than anything.

        The Brad

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          Horace
          wrote on last edited by
          #176

          I can't help but wonder what Jeff Fountain might have written, in a similar situation.

          Education is extremely important.

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            Loki
            wrote on last edited by
            #177

            While the media all day pumps out information on how bad Trump’s case is and how disconcerting all the confusing and nefarious information is Trump comes out with another video, this time standing and more vigorous. I guess we should know soon which is the correct reality.

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              Jolly
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              #178

              Meanwhile, see all the news about Biden?

              Me, neither...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                Meanwhile, see all the news about Biden?

                Me, neither...

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                George K
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                #179

                @Jolly said in Trump to quarantine awaiting Covid test:

                Meanwhile, see all the news about Biden?

                Lid went on at 09:19 this AM.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Rainman
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                  #180

                  Yeah, but we've all heard the stories where a person is doing well with Covid, everything seems to be going great, and then all of a sudden. . .

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                  • RainmanR Rainman

                    Yeah, but we've all heard the stories where a person is doing well with Covid, everything seems to be going great, and then all of a sudden. . .

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #181

                    @Rainman said in Trump to quarantine awaiting Covid test:

                    Yeah, but we've all heard the stories where a person is doing well with Covid, everything seems to be going great, and then all of a sudden. . .

                    And, that could still happen...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • RainmanR Rainman

                      Yeah, but we've all heard the stories where a person is doing well with Covid, everything seems to be going great, and then all of a sudden. . .

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                      Horace
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                      #182

                      @Rainman said in Trump to quarantine awaiting Covid test:

                      Yeah, but we've all heard the stories where a person is doing well with Covid, everything seems to be going great, and then all of a sudden. . .

                      They get hit by a bus. Yep.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        Klaus
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                        #183

                        Is this true? Over here, osteopathy doctors are seen as similar to witch doctors, homeopathy etc. - that is, full of shit.

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                        • KlausK Klaus

                          Is this true? Over here, osteopathy doctors are seen as similar to witch doctors, homeopathy etc. - that is, full of shit.

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                          Aqua Letifer
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                          #184

                          @Klaus said in Trump to quarantine awaiting Covid test:

                          Is this true? Over here, osteopathy doctors are seen as similar to witch doctors, homeopathy etc. - that is, full of shit.

                          No, it isn't. At all.

                          In America, there are no "osteopaths." We have osteopathic physicians, and that distinction is vast. It's not like other countries. Here, osteopathic doctors go through the exact same schooling as MDs. Exact. Except they also have additional hours learning OMT, on top of what MDs have to do. And whatever people think about OMT is immaterial to a DO's credentials. DOs can and do choose any specialty they want, prescribe drugs, perform surgeries, and practice anywhere in the country.

                          For licensure, DOs have the option to take the USMLE just like MDs, and many do.

                          Sure, there are differences, but those differences are also blurring with each passing year.

                          Please love yourself.

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                            George K
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                            #185

                            What Aqua said.

                            At the university, we usually had 2-3 DOs in our training program. One of my partners in private practice was a DO. He was "scary good." I asked for him to administer anesthesia for my colonoscopy and my daughter's surgery.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Klaus
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                              #186

                              But osteopathy isn't based on scientific evidence.

                              Even if somebody has all the knowledge that a normal medical doctor has, the fact that (s)he's willing to put up with witchcraft in one domain would make me question the overall trustworthiness. Either you believe in evidence-based medicine or not. Ex falso quodlibet. There's no in-between.

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                                jon-nyc
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                                #187

                                What attracts people to it to begin with? Are the schools easier to get into than med schools?

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • KlausK Klaus

                                  But osteopathy isn't based on scientific evidence.

                                  Even if somebody has all the knowledge that a normal medical doctor has, the fact that (s)he's willing to put up with witchcraft in one domain would make me question the overall trustworthiness. Either you believe in evidence-based medicine or not. Ex falso quodlibet. There's no in-between.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #188

                                  @Klaus said in Trump to quarantine awaiting Covid test:

                                  But osteopathy isn't based on scientific evidence.

                                  As far as the basic tenets go, you're probably right. However, the education that osteopaths get is virtually identical to that from MD's. None of the osteopaths with whom I've worked have done or expressed anything remotely "witchcrafty." To a (wo)man, they were all good, safe, reasonable docs whom I trusted.

                                  @jon-nyc

                                  What attracts people to it to begin with? Are the schools easier to get into than med schools?

                                  Yeah. They are, marginally easier to get into. The average GPA of students entering osteopathy schools is a bit lower than those who enter medical schools. I don't know if it's significantly lower (I doubt it), however.

                                  Here's the curriculum of a school in the Chicago area.

                                  https://www.midwestern.edu/downers-grove-il-campus-catalog/chicago-college-of-osteopathic-medicine/curriculum.xml

                                  The first year's curriculum is pretty classic, with one course per quarter on osteopathic manipulation. Second year is the same.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    George K
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                                    #189

                                    Compare to the first year curriculum at the University of Chicago:

                                    https://pritzker.uchicago.edu/academics/first-year-courses

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      kluurs
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                                      #190

                                      I had a very positive experience with a DO who helped me with a back issue years ago. I'd already seen a couple of orthopedic specialists along with a host of other people - one of my most positive health care experiences.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @Klaus said in Trump to quarantine awaiting Covid test:

                                        But osteopathy isn't based on scientific evidence.

                                        As far as the basic tenets go, you're probably right. However, the education that osteopaths get is virtually identical to that from MD's. None of the osteopaths with whom I've worked have done or expressed anything remotely "witchcrafty." To a (wo)man, they were all good, safe, reasonable docs whom I trusted.

                                        @jon-nyc

                                        What attracts people to it to begin with? Are the schools easier to get into than med schools?

                                        Yeah. They are, marginally easier to get into. The average GPA of students entering osteopathy schools is a bit lower than those who enter medical schools. I don't know if it's significantly lower (I doubt it), however.

                                        Here's the curriculum of a school in the Chicago area.

                                        https://www.midwestern.edu/downers-grove-il-campus-catalog/chicago-college-of-osteopathic-medicine/curriculum.xml

                                        The first year's curriculum is pretty classic, with one course per quarter on osteopathic manipulation. Second year is the same.

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                                        Aqua Letifer
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                                        #191

                                        @George-K said in Trump to quarantine awaiting Covid test:

                                        Yeah. They are, marginally easier to get into. The average GPA of students entering osteopathy schools is a bit lower than those who enter medical schools. I don't know if it's significantly lower (I doubt it), however.

                                        You're looking at MCATs I'm guessin'. While you're right about the numbers, many students very incorrectly believe DO schools are "easier to get into." They ain't. They just weight admissions materials slightly differently.

                                        jon, they're big on primary care, specifically in more rural communities. Students that want to work in those environments often get interested.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • KlausK Klaus

                                          But osteopathy isn't based on scientific evidence.

                                          Even if somebody has all the knowledge that a normal medical doctor has, the fact that (s)he's willing to put up with witchcraft in one domain would make me question the overall trustworthiness. Either you believe in evidence-based medicine or not. Ex falso quodlibet. There's no in-between.

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                                          Aqua Letifer
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                                          #192

                                          @Klaus said in Trump to quarantine awaiting Covid test:

                                          But osteopathy isn't based on scientific evidence.

                                          Even if somebody has all the knowledge that a normal medical doctor has, the fact that (s)he's willing to put up with witchcraft in one domain would make me question the overall trustworthiness. Either you believe in evidence-based medicine or not. Ex falso quodlibet. There's no in-between.

                                          And, you're wrong about that too. You got your DO degree at Dunning–Kruger University and you should probably stop.

                                          Please love yourself.

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