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It struck me that the real winners of the debate were China and Russia.
The USA is in danger of losing any claim it may have had to be the adult in the room or for that matter the leader of the free world.
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@Horace said in Rush Speaks:
To whatever extent such claims ever mattered, as compared to economic/military power.
Many Americans don’t appreciate how large they actually loom in the world order.
It’s easier to see it as an outsider, I suppose.
Americans have the luxury of notreally having to think about other countries.
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@xenon said in Rush Speaks:
@Horace said in Rush Speaks:
To whatever extent such claims ever mattered, as compared to economic/military power.
Many Americans don’t appreciate how large they actually loom in the world order.
It’s easier to see it as an outsider, I suppose.
Americans have the luxury of notreally having to think about other countries.
Agree. You can probably ask any educated person from almost any other country “who is the president of the USA”, and most will know the answer.
If you ask someone in the USA to name the leader of a country other than the USA, probably only 60% or less will be able to do so.
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@Horace said in Rush Speaks:
Whether they laugh or sneer or respect the USA has some impact on something I care about I'm sure, but that impact is not made clear by anecdotes of other countries laughing or sneering or respecting the USA.
There's no clear implication for your life if you start believing your brother is a dick.
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@Horace said in Rush Speaks:
I am not quick to buy the notion that other nations used to venerate the pre-Trump USA.
I did - I knew from a pretty young age that I would try to move here at some point.
Can't speak for other, I guess.
(Still do though - Trump can't completely ruin that)
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There's a significantly higher chance that we're going to leave the US than there was four years ago.
I'm sure I'll get laughed at for saying this, but it's the plain truth.
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I'm sure a lot of folk might say that due to the politics of the left. At least the orange man is self limiting due to term limits. The cultural forces pushing from the left are so much more important than orange man. But TDS sufferers will never admit that.
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@jon-nyc said in Rush Speaks:
@xenon said in Rush Speaks:
I did - I knew from a pretty young age that I would try to move here at some point.
I'm glad you did!
Thanks Jon
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@Horace said in Rush Speaks:
I am not quick to buy the notion that other nations used to venerate the pre-Trump USA.
Every leader of every foreign country has a lot more respect for Mr. Trump than for his predecessor.
Most leaders realize that it is their job to preserve, protect and defend, or at least like, their country.
Mr. Trump clearly understands this.
Other leaders, without doubt, know this and respect it.
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First off, there is no doubt the the US is the greatest country in the world. The combination of riches, People skills, innovation, smarts, resources, etc. make that and I don’t see that changing in the near future.
However, as someone who has lived and worked in multiple countries outside the US over many years, my impression is that the respect for the US by the “average” foreigner person is lower than it had been.
Does this mean any thing in the big picture? Potentially it could. But probably not.
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Gee, if I was a foreign leader, particularly one not particularly friendly with the U.S., wonder who I would rather deal with...Biden or Trump?
Now, if I was an American, which of those two men would drive the hardest bargain for America?
As for respect? That and $1 will buy you a cup of coffee at McDonald's.
Countries don't have friends, they have interests. Mutual interests create working relationships, some better than others.
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@Jolly said in Rush Speaks:
Now, if I was an American, which of those two men would drive the hardest bargain for America?
Driving the hardest bargain for USA is not always best for USA.
Diplomacy does not (and should not) be a win/lose situation. In my small opinion, I think this it what President Trump follows. He wants to win, but if he wins, the other side has to lose.
There is nothing wrong with a win/win situation, whether in diplomacy or life.
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@Jolly said in Rush Speaks:
Gee, if I was a foreign leader, particularly one not particularly friendly with the U.S., wonder who I would rather deal with...Biden or Trump?
Now, if I was an American, which of those two men would drive the hardest bargain for America?
As for respect? That and $1 will buy you a cup of coffee at McDonald's.
Countries don't have friends, they have interests. Mutual interests create working relationships, some better than others.
How cynical. I remember the genuine outpouring of emotion across Canada after 9/11. I don't think people were crying for their own economic self-interest.
Canadians also felt that more acutely than tragedies in other countries.
A country is made up of people. People have friends.
Despite what Trump says, most countries typically aren't out to "pull a fast one" on America. Especially its traditional allies.
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@xenon said in Rush Speaks:
@Jolly said in Rush Speaks:
Gee, if I was a foreign leader, particularly one not particularly friendly with the U.S., wonder who I would rather deal with...Biden or Trump?
Now, if I was an American, which of those two men would drive the hardest bargain for America?
As for respect? That and $1 will buy you a cup of coffee at McDonald's.
Countries don't have friends, they have interests. Mutual interests create working relationships, some better than others.
How cynical. I remember the genuine outpouring of emotion across Canada after 9/11. I don't think people were crying for their own economic self-interest.
Canadians also felt that more acutely than tragedies in other countries.
A country is made up of people. People have friends.
Despite what Trump says, most countries typically aren't out to "pull a fast one" on America. Especially its traditional allies.
Go back and read what I said and try thinking.