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NYC faces a financial abyss

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    From the NYT no less.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/28/nyregion/nyc-budget-coronavirus.html

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      Haven’t read the article yet but I for one have priced in a decent chance of a 70s-like situation returning.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        https://www.wsj.com/articles/manhattan-offices-are-nearly-empty-threatening-new-york-citys-recovery-11601371800

        10% of workers have returned to offices.

        I wouldn’t want Coumo’s job for anything and I would be praying for a vaccine ASAP. I

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          Haven’t read the article yet but I for one have priced in a decent chance of a 70s-like situation returning.

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          @jon-nyc said in NYC faces a financial abyss:

          Haven’t read the article yet but I for one have priced in a decent chance of a 70s-like situation returning.

          For those who weren’t alive...? Inflation? Unemployment? Bad fashion and ugly cars?

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            Fiscal issues severe enough that the state had to bail the city out and took control of certain aspects of governing (to this day). And crime was bad.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              That was after the feds refused. Famous headline in the NYPost was “Ford to City: Drop Dead”

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                The thing I remember about that is that Orange County went bankrupt around the same time. I was working (very briefly) at Salomon Bros at the WTC (pre-9/11) and was introduced to a guy who supposedly saved Orange County. He was apparently a local hero.

                So the thing I remember is that there is money to be made in good times and bad.

                I assume we will see more governments get in trouble as fallout from the covid mess.

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                  I wonder if it will be as bad as the article says. I did read an article about how after 9/11, there was concern that no one would ever want to work downtown again, especially in large office buildings. Someone write up there was for sure going to be a trend out of the downtown and they will soon die out. That obviously didn’t happen.

                  I realize what is happening is on a bigger scale but I also know that people and business has short memories. I read also an article, may be posted here, that working from home is not everything it is said to be.

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                    My intuition is that the city will recover as the population gets vaccinated and the budget recovery will follow. In the mean time a little pressure relief on the rising rents of the past decade or two isn't a bad thing.

                    Increasing urbanization is a multi-century secular trend and isn't likely to suddenly get reversed by a small (in the grand scheme of things) set back like this.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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