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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #87

    Trump has a point about taxes.

    I think everybody with any level of income, should pay taxes. Any income.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • MikM Away
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      Mik
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      #88

      I think he needs to not discuss it in the debates. Been audited, no laws broken, end of story.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        I think he needs to not discuss it in the debates. Been audited, no laws broken, end of story.

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        #89

        @Mik said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

        I think he needs to not discuss it in the debates. Been audited, no laws broken, end of story.

        According to Trump himself, the audit is still on-going, so you cannot yet conclude whether there is any law broken, the story has not ended.

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        • CopperC Offline
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          #90

          There are a lot of businessmen who would sell their souls to achieve what Mr. Trump has achieved.

          By almost any measure he is very successful.

          For example, the presidency is a prize that has eluded many talented people.

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
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            #91

            So this image has been circulating social media meant as an indictment on Trump, but I see it as more of an indictment on Obama... What do you think?

            3C888D14-A285-4B78-89E2-5204C60E0F2F.jpeg

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              So this image has been circulating social media meant as an indictment on Trump, but I see it as more of an indictment on Obama... What do you think?

              3C888D14-A285-4B78-89E2-5204C60E0F2F.jpeg

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              wrote on last edited by
              #92

              @LuFins-Dad said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

              So this image has been circulating social media meant as an indictment on Trump, but I see it as more of an indictment on Obama... What do you think?

              3C888D14-A285-4B78-89E2-5204C60E0F2F.jpeg

              That's interesting. Man made a fortune off of being President...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                xenon
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                #93

                It was book royalties.

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                • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by taiwan_girl
                  #94

                  One thing I haven’t seen in the newspaper is saying what President Trump income was for the years.

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    So this image has been circulating social media meant as an indictment on Trump, but I see it as more of an indictment on Obama... What do you think?

                    3C888D14-A285-4B78-89E2-5204C60E0F2F.jpeg

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #95

                    @LuFins-Dad said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                    So this image has been circulating social media meant as an indictment on Trump, but I see it as more of an indictment on Obama... What do you think?

                    It was from his book. 1099 income. Not a lot of fancy deduction opportunities.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • CopperC Offline
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                      #96

                      That $750 in 2017 amount is making headlines.

                      But I'm looking at the Times story and it says

                      Each time, he requested an extension to file his 1040; and each time, he made the required payment to the I.R.S. for income taxes he might owe — $1 million for 2016 and $4.2 million for 2017. But virtually all of that liability was washed away when he eventually filed, and most of the payments were rolled forward to cover potential taxes in future years.

                      So, he paid $4.2 million in 2017

                      But "virtually all of that liability was washed away"

                      What kind of statement is that? virtually? washed away?

                      There is an indication that the $750 was the amount owed on tax day, but he had already paid $4.2 million.

                      I can't say I understand what the nyt is saying, but it looks to me like they might be stretching the facts.

                      https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes.html

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                        jon-nyc
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                        #97

                        @Copper said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                        and most of the payments were rolled forward to cover potential taxes in future years.

                        SO that mean he "overpaid" and didn't ask for a refund, rather rolled it forward. I do it every year, albeit with smaller numbers.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
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                          So Trump loaned the US $4,000,000 interest free to indefinitely. He’s a helluva guy!

                          The Brad

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                          • CopperC Copper

                            There are a lot of businessmen who would sell their souls to achieve what Mr. Trump has achieved.

                            By almost any measure he is very successful.

                            For example, the presidency is a prize that has eluded many talented people.

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            @Copper said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                            There are a lot of businessmen who would sell their souls to achieve what Mr. Trump has achieved.

                            He did sell his soul. Why do you think he's in such horrendous debt?

                            I was only joking

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                              Larry
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                              I cannot believe that this is still an issue. How many times do some of you have to get played for fools by the leftwing media before you finally figure out youre being made a fool of? Good grief....

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                                I cannot believe that this is still an issue. How many times do some of you have to get played for fools by the leftwing media before you finally figure out youre being made a fool of? Good grief....

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                                xenon
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                                @Larry said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                I cannot believe that this is still an issue. How many times do some of you have to get played for fools by the leftwing media before you finally figure out youre being made a fool of? Good grief....

                                What part is the trick?

                                Are the 1040's faked? The article is about his businesses. He makes most of his profit on a couple of good properties and Apprentice royalties. Then he plows the money into the money pits (like the golf courses).

                                It's just interesting info.

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                                  @Larry said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                  I cannot believe that this is still an issue. How many times do some of you have to get played for fools by the leftwing media before you finally figure out youre being made a fool of? Good grief....

                                  What part is the trick?

                                  Are the 1040's faked? The article is about his businesses. He makes most of his profit on a couple of good properties and Apprentice royalties. Then he plows the money into the money pits (like the golf courses).

                                  It's just interesting info.

                                  LarryL Offline
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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #102

                                  @xenon said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                  @Larry said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                  I cannot believe that this is still an issue. How many times do some of you have to get played for fools by the leftwing media before you finally figure out youre being made a fool of? Good grief....

                                  What part is the trick?

                                  Are the 1040's faked? The article is about his businesses. He makes most of his profit on a couple of good properties and Apprentice royalties. Then he plows the money into the money pits (like the golf courses).

                                  It's just interesting info.

                                  It's just another opportunity for you Trump bashers to engage in your usual mental midgetry. "Oooooh, he only paid 750 bucks in taxes! Orange man bad!!" Then you find out he actually paid millions in taxes. What do you do? Ignore that and switch to "his golf courses are money pits!" When you find out that's not true either, you'll switch to yet another bit of nuttery and never bat an eye.

                                  It pisses me off that our "news media" works in conjunction with the Socialist Party to produce propaganda. It pisses me off even more to see how fucking gullible so many people are that they don't just fall for this daily dose of stupidity, but seem to enjoy being a fucking moron.

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                                    @Larry said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                    I cannot believe that this is still an issue. How many times do some of you have to get played for fools by the leftwing media before you finally figure out youre being made a fool of? Good grief....

                                    What part is the trick?

                                    Are the 1040's faked? The article is about his businesses. He makes most of his profit on a couple of good properties and Apprentice royalties. Then he plows the money into the money pits (like the golf courses).

                                    It's just interesting info.

                                    LuFins DadL Offline
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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #103

                                    @xenon said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                    @Larry said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                    I cannot believe that this is still an issue. How many times do some of you have to get played for fools by the leftwing media before you finally figure out youre being made a fool of? Good grief....

                                    What part is the trick?

                                    Are the 1040's faked? The article is about his businesses. He makes most of his profit on a couple of good properties and Apprentice royalties. Then he plows the money into the money pits (like the golf courses).

                                    It's just interesting info.

                                    What 1040s? As far as ai can tell they haven’t actually published us. Just said “We’ve seen them! Trust us.”

                                    The Brad

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                                      xenon
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                                      #104

                                      From his Tweet, it seems like the info is real "illegally obtained returns":

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                                      • JollyJ Offline
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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by Jolly
                                        #105

                                        No, the returns may be legally in the possession of the source but become illegal once given to The Slimes.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          No, the returns may be legally in the possession of the source but become illegal once given to The Slimes.

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                                          taiwan_girl
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                                          #106

                                          @Jolly I believe what @xenon is saying is that what the NY Times has is probably the actual tax returns.

                                          Maybe they got them illegal, but the actual documents are probably correct.

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