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Ilhan Omar refused service because she's a Muslim

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  • Andrea BA Offline
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    Andrea B
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    Just kidding.

    It was Dan Goldman.

    https://nypost.com/2026/06/22/us-news/nyc-coffee-shop-bans-pro-israel-politician-in-nasty-post-despite-promise-to-treat-all-customers-with-unconditional-dignity/

    I love you long time.

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    • AxtremusA Offline
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      @andrea-b what’s your position on letting private businesses decide who they want to do business with (e.g., whether a wedding cake maker should have the right to refuse service to gay couple ordering a wedding cake for their same-sex wedding)?

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        @andrea-b what’s your position on letting private businesses decide who they want to do business with (e.g., whether a wedding cake maker should have the right to refuse service to gay couple ordering a wedding cake for their same-sex wedding)?

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        @Axtremus said:

        @andrea-b what’s your position on letting private businesses decide who they want to do business with (e.g., whether a wedding cake maker should have the right to refuse service to gay couple ordering a wedding cake for their same-sex wedding)?

        When Muslim bakeries start making gay wedding cakes we can have that discussion.

        However, in Goldman's case, this is not a religious issue, it's a political one.

        Do you support restaurants who refused service to Trump administration officials?

        https://time.com/5320482/sarah-huckabee-sanders-virginia-restaurant/

        I love you long time.

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        • Andrea BA Andrea B

          @Axtremus said:

          @andrea-b what’s your position on letting private businesses decide who they want to do business with (e.g., whether a wedding cake maker should have the right to refuse service to gay couple ordering a wedding cake for their same-sex wedding)?

          When Muslim bakeries start making gay wedding cakes we can have that discussion.

          However, in Goldman's case, this is not a religious issue, it's a political one.

          Do you support restaurants who refused service to Trump administration officials?

          https://time.com/5320482/sarah-huckabee-sanders-virginia-restaurant/

          AxtremusA Offline
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          Axtremus
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          @Andrea-B said:

          When Muslim bakeries start making gay wedding cakes we can have that discussion.

          As Muslims traditionally has no concept of “wedding cake,” “Muslim bakeries” do not make “wedding cake” for anyone, gay or straight; it would be an equal opportunity non-discriminatory denial of “wedding cake” service to everyone.

          Still, the gay wedding cake example notwithstanding, the question is “what’s your position on letting private businesses decide who they want to do business with?” Would you like to address that?

          However, in Goldman's case, this is not a religious issue, it's a political one.

          Glad you recognize that distinction. Legally speaking, religion is a protected class but political affiliation isn’t.

          Would you have a problem with private businesses refusing service to supporters of, say, the Russian/Putin government?

          Do you support restaurants who refused service to Trump administration officials?

          https://time.com/5320482/sarah-huckabee-sanders-virginia-restaurant/

          No problem dining in restaurants that refused service to Trump, Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Carter administration. It’s just not something I consider when deciding which restaurants to dine in. 🤷

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            @Andrea-B said:

            When Muslim bakeries start making gay wedding cakes we can have that discussion.

            As Muslims traditionally has no concept of “wedding cake,” “Muslim bakeries” do not make “wedding cake” for anyone, gay or straight; it would be an equal opportunity non-discriminatory denial of “wedding cake” service to everyone.

            Still, the gay wedding cake example notwithstanding, the question is “what’s your position on letting private businesses decide who they want to do business with?” Would you like to address that?

            However, in Goldman's case, this is not a religious issue, it's a political one.

            Glad you recognize that distinction. Legally speaking, religion is a protected class but political affiliation isn’t.

            Would you have a problem with private businesses refusing service to supporters of, say, the Russian/Putin government?

            Do you support restaurants who refused service to Trump administration officials?

            https://time.com/5320482/sarah-huckabee-sanders-virginia-restaurant/

            No problem dining in restaurants that refused service to Trump, Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Carter administration. It’s just not something I consider when deciding which restaurants to dine in. 🤷

            Andrea BA Offline
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            @Axtremus said:

            it would be an equal opportunity non-discriminatory denial of “wedding cake” service to everyone.

            Nice try. There are at least a couple of videos of a customer going to a Muslim bakery and asking for a cake celebrating the marriage of two men. They were declined.

            Link to video

            I love you long time.

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            • Andrea BA Andrea B

              @Axtremus said:

              it would be an equal opportunity non-discriminatory denial of “wedding cake” service to everyone.

              Nice try. There are at least a couple of videos of a customer going to a Muslim bakery and asking for a cake celebrating the marriage of two men. They were declined.

              Link to video

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              @Andrea-B said:

              There are at least a couple of videos of a customer going to a Muslim bakery and asking for a cake celebrating the marriage of two men. They were declined.

              Do you support these Muslim bakeries getting to choose who they do or not do business with?

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                jon-nyc
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                #7

                I had heard about the Goldman incident but I have to say the only people who would call Dan Sachs Goldman (ya rly) a ‘far left Democrat’ would probably consider any and all democrats to be ‘far left democrats’.

                I don’t know the origin of his name. AFAIK, he has no relation to the original Goldman-Sachs family. In fact he’s a descendent of the Levi Strauss family and that’s the source of his fortune.

                Much of the race with Lander - himself a Jew who left the DSA due to its reaction to 10/7 - was centered around Goldman’s ties to AIPAC.

                Lo, no accord shall bloom 'twixt us and that realm, save they do kneel in token of their utter, soul-deep shame! No parley shall we hold, no treaty sign, until their will is broken, and their strength doth lie as dust before our might. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                  Interestingly they did actually serve him as they didn’t recognize who it was until after the fact. They issued a unilateral refund and then posted on their since-deleted instagram account that he’s not welcome.

                  I wonder if that little detail that they did in fact serve him will be the technicality that saves them or will publicly saying he’s not welcome be enough to get them in trouble with the Feds?

                  Lo, no accord shall bloom 'twixt us and that realm, save they do kneel in token of their utter, soul-deep shame! No parley shall we hold, no treaty sign, until their will is broken, and their strength doth lie as dust before our might. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    The only incident around here was Jeff Ruby refused to serve OJ Simpson at his Louisville steakhouse.

                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                      Now if Dan Goldman refused service to OJ Simpson I’d totally understand.

                      Lo, no accord shall bloom 'twixt us and that realm, save they do kneel in token of their utter, soul-deep shame! No parley shall we hold, no treaty sign, until their will is broken, and their strength doth lie as dust before our might. -DJT, 3/6/26

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