Woke cops in Britain
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One way in which woke did play a role here, is in the narrative fashioned by the murderer's brother, after he finally called 911. He described it as self defense again a racial attack perpetrated by the white guy, and we have no reason to believe the dispatcher and officers didn't buy that unquestioningly, nor that that accepted narrative didn't affect their actions once they got onto the scene.
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Another "woke" angle which seems indisputable to me in this case is the religious exception for big knives, which are otherwise illegal. I'm sure some say that that's not "woke", it's only respect for religion, but that holds water only to the extent that a similar exception might be made for the native majority white religion, if it had some holy weaponry that was otherwise illegal. In that case, the "woke" ideology would obviously squish any exception for the native white culture. I know that's a hypothetical, but I'm happy to allow those who reject that premise to do so, and tell on themselves that they are not connected to reality. Under no circumstance would the elite progressive western culture allow the common majority white culture to enjoy an exception over all the minorities like that.
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Fucking J D Vance is a tool, blaming the murder on immigration FFS. His wife should have a quiet word with him.
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Fucking J D Vance is a tool, blaming the murder on immigration FFS. His wife should have a quiet word with him.
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Fucking J D Vance is a tool, blaming the murder on immigration FFS. His wife should have a quiet word with him.
His wife probably agrees with the fully contextualized quote.
Fucking J D Vance is a tool, blaming the murder on immigration FFS. His wife should have a quiet word with him.
His wife probably agrees with the fully contextualized quote.
Is the following the “contextualized quote” to which you refer?
"Henry Nowak died the same way a civilization dies: abandoned, handcuffed by authorities who neither trusted nor cared for him, and accused of hate crimes he did not commit," Vance said on X. "Each time a life like his is lost, the proper response — the only response — is righteous anger."
Sounds like more like harumpfing indignation to incite the populist rabble.
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Fucking J D Vance is a tool, blaming the murder on immigration FFS. His wife should have a quiet word with him.
His wife probably agrees with the fully contextualized quote.
Is the following the “contextualized quote” to which you refer?
"Henry Nowak died the same way a civilization dies: abandoned, handcuffed by authorities who neither trusted nor cared for him, and accused of hate crimes he did not commit," Vance said on X. "Each time a life like his is lost, the proper response — the only response — is righteous anger."
Sounds like more like harumpfing indignation to incite the populist rabble.
Fucking J D Vance is a tool, blaming the murder on immigration FFS. His wife should have a quiet word with him.
His wife probably agrees with the fully contextualized quote.
Is the following the “contextualized quote” to which you refer?
"Henry Nowak died the same way a civilization dies: abandoned, handcuffed by authorities who neither trusted nor cared for him, and accused of hate crimes he did not commit," Vance said on X. "Each time a life like his is lost, the proper response — the only response — is righteous anger."
Sounds like more like harumpfing indignation to incite the populist rabble.
This is that whole tweet:
Henry Nowak died the same way a civilization dies: abandoned, handcuffed by authorities who neither trusted nor cared for him, and accused of hate crimes he did not commit. His murder is as tragic as it is enraging. He should still be alive today, and he would be if the last few generations of European elites had stood their ground against the politics of self-hatred and the mass invasion of migrants, many of whom despise the West and the people who love it.
Henry was far from the first to so needlessly lose his life, and I fear he won’t be the last. Each time a life like his is lost, the proper response—the only response—is righteous anger. One of the most important things the Trump administration has proven to the world is that stopping the flow of mass migration and defending national sovereignty is a matter of political will and leadership. Anything else is an excuse.
It is because we love the West that we want to preserve it. We love our civilization. We love our country. We love our children. And nobody—nobody—should ever die the way that Henry Nowak died. May God comfort those who loved him, and may God rest his soul.
I assume that's it, but I don't know exactly what Phibes was referring to. That tweet is political opportunism, but it makes a point against a problem that millions consider real, and those millions aren't entirely nuts IMO. The cultural self-hatred and "suicidal empathy" of the progressive west has been a problem for a long time. Since long before Vance and his boss got here. The tweet is not so simple as blaming legal and thoughtfully controlled immigration for this murder. JD and his boss have always been on record as supporting legal and thoughtfully controlled immigration. If it took Trump to put this idea in the spotlight that historically white western culture is something to be mostly proud of rather than ashamed of, especially when compared against any other culture that's ever existed, then it took Trump. So be it, because that idiotic idea that white people born in the west need to apologize right out of the womb, while the rest of the world is encouraged to preen publicly about their own culture, is a source of a great deal of resentment that eventually helped to usher in MAGA in America and plenty of analogous political movements elsewhere.
Education is extremely important.
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I didn’t realize that. Sikh’s are anything but foul. Rather surprising.
Maybe take a moment off from slagging off the Pakis with your British chums and go look up what happened to Indira Gandhi (a rather foul Hindu, incidentally, if you listen to Salman Rushdie).
So, when you made an assumption about who the killer was, it was perfectly natural, but when the police made a completely different but equally wrong assumption, it was because they were hopelessly woke?
I didn’t realize that. Sikh’s are anything but foul. Rather surprising.
Maybe take a moment off from slagging off the Pakis with your British chums and go look up what happened to Indira Gandhi (a rather foul Hindu, incidentally, if you listen to Salman Rushdie).
So, when you made an assumption about who the killer was, it was perfectly natural, but when the police made a completely different but equally wrong assumption, it was because they were hopelessly woke?
I’ve always been curious. What was the take of a regular Brit observer on that whole episode?
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Am I a regular Brit? Pibes seems to be an educated regular.
Hard to say what goes on in anyone's mind unless you've known them for years.
Probably an awful mistake, perhaps pressured by the various skin colours/attitudes involved at an intense moment.
A lot of people still regard our police as rather average intellectually and ready for a bit of a punch up when needed.
You know, neanderthal crossed with neonazi.
The ones I have personally known in my family and close friends have been family men, and most thoughtful, and or Christians.As for Farage, I shall never vote for him or his party. He's a two faced political slimeball rabble-rouser. The worst of our politicians and that includes those of the recent SNP debacle now enjoying accommodation at HM pleasure.
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Am I a regular Brit? Pibes seems to be an educated regular.
Hard to say what goes on in anyone's mind unless you've known them for years.
Probably an awful mistake, perhaps pressured by the various skin colours/attitudes involved at an intense moment.
A lot of people still regard our police as rather average intellectually and ready for a bit of a punch up when needed.
You know, neanderthal crossed with neonazi.
The ones I have personally known in my family and close friends have been family men, and most thoughtful, and or Christians.As for Farage, I shall never vote for him or his party. He's a two faced political slimeball rabble-rouser. The worst of our politicians and that includes those of the recent SNP debacle now enjoying accommodation at HM pleasure.
Am I a regular Brit? Pibes seems to be an educated regular.
I'm not really a source of much wisdom at this point, I haven't lived there since '97, although I do find the politics quite interesting. Most of what I know I get from friends and family, The News Quiz and Have I got News For You, which might not be the most reliable sources, although probably more accurate than US Cable TV.
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Fucking J D Vance is a tool, blaming the murder on immigration FFS. His wife should have a quiet word with him.
His wife probably agrees with the fully contextualized quote.
Is the following the “contextualized quote” to which you refer?
"Henry Nowak died the same way a civilization dies: abandoned, handcuffed by authorities who neither trusted nor cared for him, and accused of hate crimes he did not commit," Vance said on X. "Each time a life like his is lost, the proper response — the only response — is righteous anger."
Sounds like more like harumpfing indignation to incite the populist rabble.
This is that whole tweet:
Henry Nowak died the same way a civilization dies: abandoned, handcuffed by authorities who neither trusted nor cared for him, and accused of hate crimes he did not commit. His murder is as tragic as it is enraging. He should still be alive today, and he would be if the last few generations of European elites had stood their ground against the politics of self-hatred and the mass invasion of migrants, many of whom despise the West and the people who love it.
Henry was far from the first to so needlessly lose his life, and I fear he won’t be the last. Each time a life like his is lost, the proper response—the only response—is righteous anger. One of the most important things the Trump administration has proven to the world is that stopping the flow of mass migration and defending national sovereignty is a matter of political will and leadership. Anything else is an excuse.
It is because we love the West that we want to preserve it. We love our civilization. We love our country. We love our children. And nobody—nobody—should ever die the way that Henry Nowak died. May God comfort those who loved him, and may God rest his soul.
I assume that's it, but I don't know exactly what Phibes was referring to. That tweet is political opportunism, but it makes a point against a problem that millions consider real, and those millions aren't entirely nuts IMO. The cultural self-hatred and "suicidal empathy" of the progressive west has been a problem for a long time. Since long before Vance and his boss got here. The tweet is not so simple as blaming legal and thoughtfully controlled immigration for this murder. JD and his boss have always been on record as supporting legal and thoughtfully controlled immigration. If it took Trump to put this idea in the spotlight that historically white western culture is something to be mostly proud of rather than ashamed of, especially when compared against any other culture that's ever existed, then it took Trump. So be it, because that idiotic idea that white people born in the west need to apologize right out of the womb, while the rest of the world is encouraged to preen publicly about their own culture, is a source of a great deal of resentment that eventually helped to usher in MAGA in America and plenty of analogous political movements elsewhere.
That tweet is political opportunism, but it makes a point against a problem that millions consider real, and those millions aren't entirely nuts IMO. The cultural self-hatred and "suicidal empathy" of the progressive west has been a problem for a long time.
Indeed it is nothing more than political opportunism.
As far as I concerned it affirms a point I have held for some years which I think I have mentioned here in one or two of TNCR’s incarnations. Namely, our present duality stems from the woke left progressive populists being unable to cope with the past and the woke reactionary right populists being incapable of coping with the future.
Still someone ought to point out to “Baby Face” Vance that the murderer in the Nowak case was born and raised in the UK to legally landed immigrants. In that light of that fact, Vance’s statement is unacceptable and should be challenged with open and critical scepticism. One hopes as well that Vance is not so obtuse as to think that the murderer’s Sikh faith motivated the criminal act and subsequent lies that led to the arrest and death of Mr. Nowak
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