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California to ban sales of gasoline vehicles in 2035.

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    https://www.npr.org/2020/09/23/916209659/california-governor-signs-order-banning-sales-of-new-gasoline-cars-by-2035

    The Bee comments...

    Screen Shot 2020-09-24 at 12.53.29 PM.png

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by Jolly
      #2

      When the line between satire and truth begins to blur...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • L Offline
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        Loki
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        Nothing wrong to make it a vision statement. A future governor can easily undo it but it’s good for Gavin to put on his platform.

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          Espcially since it requires nothing of him at the moment.

          Still, I'm not entirely opposed to future goals like this. Electric cars are coming of age. My next one may well be electric. It serves as a driver for cleaner electricity as well.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            This guy's a lightweight. If elected, I will ban world hunger, starting in 2024.

            I was only joking

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              This guy's a lightweight. If elected, I will ban world hunger, starting in 2024.

              Aqua LetiferA Offline
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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              @Doctor-Phibes said in California to ban sales of gasoline vehicles in 2035.:

              This guy's a lightweight. If elected, I will ban world hunger, starting in 2024.

              The Russians beat you by about 80 years.

              Please love yourself.

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
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                #7

                Nothing like clean nuclear...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  cal22035.png

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • LarryL Offline
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                    Larry
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                    #9

                    Let me see...

                    It's bad to drive a car that burns fossil fuels.
                    The solution is electric cars.
                    Which uses electricity..
                    Generated from coal..
                    A fossil fuel..
                    Which it stores in batteries...
                    Made using rare earth materials..
                    Which pollute more than gasoline...

                    Got it.

                    What would we do if we didn't have the superior democrats to take care of us....

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                    • George KG George K

                      cal22035.png

                      89th8 Offline
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                      89th
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      @George-K said in California to ban sales of gasoline vehicles in 2035.:

                      cal22035.png

                      😂

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        Never forget, this is where Biden wants to take the COUNTRY.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • CopperC Offline
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                          Copper
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                          #12

                          Mr. Biden is not alone

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                          • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                            taiwan_girl
                            wrote on last edited by
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                            I think it is a goofy idea.

                            Though electric cars do produce less emissions than gas cars "wheel to wheel", but I do think that there should be a choice.

                            From Department of Energy

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                            • LarryL Larry

                              Let me see...

                              It's bad to drive a car that burns fossil fuels.
                              The solution is electric cars.
                              Which uses electricity..
                              Generated from coal..
                              A fossil fuel..
                              Which it stores in batteries...
                              Made using rare earth materials..
                              Which pollute more than gasoline...

                              Got it.

                              What would we do if we didn't have the superior democrats to take care of us....

                              F Offline
                              F Offline
                              Friday
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              @Larry said in California to ban sales of gasoline vehicles in 2035.:

                              Let me see...

                              It's bad to drive a car that burns fossil fuels.
                              The solution is electric cars.
                              Which uses electricity..
                              Generated from coal..
                              A fossil fuel..
                              Which it stores in batteries...
                              Made using rare earth materials..
                              Which pollute more than gasoline...

                              Got it.

                              What would we do if we didn't have the superior democrats to take care of us....

                              Their reasoning is that the pollution won't be in California.

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                              • JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #15

                                Massachusetts to join California...

                                https://californiaglobe.com/articles/massachusetts-washington-state-adopt-californias-2035-ban-on-gas-powered-vehicles/

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  Massachusetts to join California...

                                  https://californiaglobe.com/articles/massachusetts-washington-state-adopt-californias-2035-ban-on-gas-powered-vehicles/

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                                  George K
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                                  #16

                                  @Jolly good thing that California has all that open space for the unicorn farms - because that's where electricity comes from, right?

                                  Unicorn farts.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    #17

                                    Until this year, Toyota Camry was the best-selling new car in California, followed by the Honda Accord, and the Nissan Altima. The Tesla actually managed to unseat the Camry this year, but if you add the Camry, Accord, Altima, and other mid-size sedans in the $25K starting MSRP range, you will see that is still the largest market for new car sales. Not really surprising...

                                    EV's with similar cargo and sitting space are starting off at around $43,000. So, are Californians going to make an $18K jump to go EV or are they going to go heavier into the used market? My bet is heavier into the used market. And used cars do not get as good of mileage as new cars. They burn more oil, they burn more gas, and require more part replacements.

                                    On top of that, as has been discussed MANY times before, they simply don't have the grid capacity in California WITHOUT all of these EV's running around...

                                    The Brad

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                                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on last edited by
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                                      I do not mind EVs. I do not mind Hybrids. I would gladly consider getting a Hybrid for my daily runner.

                                      If you mandate that a new car must be an EV? Then I am going to buy a 69 Camaro SS getting 6.9MPG and sit in front of your office all day leaving the engine running...

                                      The Brad

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                                      • JollyJ Offline
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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #19

                                        And...part of the problem are some of the devices used on cars today. I can see where California might want vehicles that pollute a little less, but...

                                        A friend of mine came by the house yesterday in his Ford F250. He bought the truck used, about two months ago. Truck got 16mpg, mixed. After he had the truck bullet-proofed (go read up on that, it's fascinating), with a less restrictive exhaust, his mileage improved to 20mpg.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          #20

                                          Maybe the real result will be that people will drive to Nevada or Arizona to do car shopping.

                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

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