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Hegseth to Anthropic: Nice company you got there…

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    wrote last edited by Horace
    #23

    No, you're not really learning. But I'm patient. You may not have understood my previous post; feel free to read it again. The difference in versions that Anthropic wants to provide and that DoD wants them to provide, is not one of categorical "can or cannot be used for illegal surveillance". This is an important point. The DoD only wants imperfect guardrails removed.

    It is simply and objectively false to think that the version Anthropic would like to provide, will perfectly prevent itself from use in "illegal" surveillance while allowing itself to be used in legal circumstances. The DoD is demanding that the imperfect guardrails not be a potential impediment to their legal uses. Explicitly that is their demand. Yes, your framing is tribal and tortured.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • 89th8 Online
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      Didn't we have a Claude member here once? Maybe he can weigh in. If not, @klaus is as close as we get.

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      • 89th8 89th

        Didn't we have a Claude member here once? Maybe he can weigh in. If not, @klaus is as close as we get.

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        #25

        @89th said in Hegseth to Anthropic: Nice company you got there…:

        Didn't we have a Claude member here once? Maybe he can weigh in. If not, @klaus is as close as we get.

        That’s going back awhile. Yeah, I think his complete handle was Claude Balls.

        I just assumed it another one of the late Larry’s numerous fun sock puppets

        Elbows up!

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          #26

          Ha. I remember that now.

          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            #27

            Get out your popcorn.

            An interesting question is why the DoD doesn't just go with Xai. I guess Claude really is better.

            The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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            • 89th8 Online
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              cause Xai is Gai

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              • 89th8 89th

                cause Xai is Gai

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                @89th said in Hegseth to Anthropic: Nice company you got there…:

                cause Xai is Gai

                And Gai means "chicken."
                https://www.gainyc.com/ 😋

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                • AxtremusA Offline
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                  #30

                  Don't think there is a meaningful distinction between different "versions" of a large AI model. It costs way too much for a company to perform parallel trainings to develop two significantly different "versions."

                  If the underlying AI model is the same, then putting different "guardrails" around the model gives little confidence that a tech savvy user (like the Pentagon) won't have the capability to get around those guardrails.

                  It sounds to me Anthropic wants the Pentagon to promise (as a matter of contract) not to use its product for certain purposes, rather than trying to not provide a certain "version" of its product.

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                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2026/02/26/hegseth-anthropic-ai-model-claude/

                    Hegseth wants Anthropic to modify its contract to allow “any lawful use” of the technology. Anthropic is willing to rewrite its current terms of use but not to include mass surveillance of Americans or accommodate weapons that operate without a person in the loop to make the final decision.

                    It seems WaPo's Editorial Board reads the situation as I do: it's a contractual "terms of use" issue, not a "product version" issue.

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                    • 89th8 Online
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                      https://www.anthropic.com/news/statement-department-of-war

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