US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him
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@Renauda France will not do that. Neither will Belgium as the consequences might be too obnoxious.
But this is definitely a US strategy: causing havoc by pertinently lying about and interfering with local politics in Europe.
Trumpty-Dumpty and Shite (US ambassador in Belgium) are exponents of sheer stupidity and arrogance.@Wim said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
@Renauda France will not do that. Neither will Belgium as the consequences might be too obnoxious.
But this is definitely a US strategy: causing havoc by pertinently lying about and interfering with local politics in Europe.
Trumpty-Dumpty and Shite (US ambassador in Belgium) are exponents of sheer stupidity and arrogance.I am aware of that, and agree with your breakdown on it.
I also feel similarly that Ottawa should PNG the current US ambassador to Canada, Peter Hoestra. In the past year his comments on Canadian domestic affairs and issues have periodically ventured way offside of acceptability for the most senior accredited diplomat representing a foreign country here.
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@jon-nyc Now that we're therapizing, do you suppose the wallpaper of vomitous hatred you ply this board with, will help to keep people from voting in the way you're "sorry" for, in future elections? I know the word "sorry" can be multi-purpose, and one can be "sorry" for things they had nothing to do with, but the most effective apologies stem from regret for one's own behavior.
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@Mik said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
No need. For all the bluster, missteps and chaos it's still better than the alternative.
Not so sure. I doubt “the alternative” (this one time I am not referring to Nikki Haley either) would have awarded an ambassadorship to a convicted felon, albeit pardoned by Trump himself, and family relative through marriage.
At the very least, bad form and raises more questions than should otherwise be warranted.
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Well, that is one point I can agree on, but I still believe that overall he's a much more effective president than Harris would have been. For all the plentiful distastefulness, he's tackling more issues head on than any president in memory. He has quite an ability to reframe and refocus national discussions.
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That’s simply reframing the excuse I heard repeatedly during and immediately after his first term in office when it was pointed out that Trump was not a conservative. The retort was nearly always the same, ”yes, but he governs or governed as a conservative”.
It’s an excuse to provide Trump cover for his ineptitude in the role he is degrading every day he sits in office.
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I think we know if Harris was President we'd basically see a cruise control of what Biden was doing. In many respects, I think we'd have a similar economy as to what Trump has now, so to me that's a bit of wash. We'd have borders than are more open than they are now but also wouldn't have masked men kidnapping people and shooting people in the streets.
So really it comes down to, do you want the country moving slowly left on cruise control without blowing up diplomatic relations and without a garbage truck full of corruption and deplorable acts, or do you want the country moving back to the right but with all that the garbage truck of corruption brings?
At this point I'd rather have Harris and then hopefully get a much better conservative in office in 2028 to bring us back to the right and hopefully add some fiscal stewardship on top. As I said in 2016 when I didn't vote for Trump, I could never tell my kids I voted for that type of person and sadly that's one prediction that seems to have been reinforced by behavior x1000.
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All of that being said, I do see the 4D chess moves of long-lasting regime change potential in Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, (and maybe cartel change Mexico)... that would be a heck of a reputation to earn if those moves can come to fruition in the next 2-3 years. The first chess move to bomb Iran was one, the cutting off of oil to Cuba from Venezuela and Mexico is 2, the arresting of Maduro was 3, so I do see this trending in a POTENTIALLY historic direction. I suppose Rubio may get the VP credit for it in 2028.
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One quick question, have we heard why Kushner refused to meet with the Ministers?
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One quick question, have we heard why Kushner refused to meet with the Ministers?
@LuFins-Dad said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
One quick question, have we heard why Kushner refused to meet with the Ministers?
This:
A French official told The Hill Monday that Kushner did not show up to the foreign ministry when he was summoned, a breach of diplomatic protocol. As a result, Kushner is now denied meetings with French ministers.
He refused to a summons from the French Foreign Minister.
When summoned to by the host foreign ministry, a serving ambassador is obliged to comply with the order. That is understood and accepted diplomatic protocol.
Elbows up!
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I'm really surprised Charles Kushner, who inherited his father's business, and later went to federal prison for felonies including illegal campaign contributions, tax evasion, and witness tampering in which he hired a whore to seduce his brother in law in order to blackmail him, would ever do something wrong.
FYI I think he didn't show up for the summons because he thought France isn't doing enough to stop the rise of antisemitic attacks.
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@LuFins-Dad said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
One quick question, have we heard why Kushner refused to meet with the Ministers?
This:
A French official told The Hill Monday that Kushner did not show up to the foreign ministry when he was summoned, a breach of diplomatic protocol. As a result, Kushner is now denied meetings with French ministers.
He refused to a summons from the French Foreign Minister.
When summoned to by the host foreign ministry, a serving ambassador is obliged to comply with the order. That is understood and accepted diplomatic protocol.
@Renauda said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
@LuFins-Dad said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
One quick question, have we heard why Kushner refused to meet with the Ministers?
This:
A French official told The Hill Monday that Kushner did not show up to the foreign ministry when he was summoned, a breach of diplomatic protocol. As a result, Kushner is now denied meetings with French ministers.
He refused to a summons from the French Foreign Minister.
Again, do we know why he refused the summons? I would be very curious to that.
When summoned to by the host foreign ministry, a serving ambassador is obliged to comply with the order. That is understood and accepted diplomatic protocol.
Protocol is fine. And when broken it can be a very powerful message. I would like to know what the message they are sending is, and why.
The Brad
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I think we know if Harris was President we'd basically see a cruise control of what Biden was doing. In many respects, I think we'd have a similar economy as to what Trump has now, so to me that's a bit of wash. We'd have borders than are more open than they are now but also wouldn't have masked men kidnapping people and shooting people in the streets.
So really it comes down to, do you want the country moving slowly left on cruise control without blowing up diplomatic relations and without a garbage truck full of corruption and deplorable acts, or do you want the country moving back to the right but with all that the garbage truck of corruption brings?
At this point I'd rather have Harris and then hopefully get a much better conservative in office in 2028 to bring us back to the right and hopefully add some fiscal stewardship on top. As I said in 2016 when I didn't vote for Trump, I could never tell my kids I voted for that type of person and sadly that's one prediction that seems to have been reinforced by behavior x1000.
@89th said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
I think we know if Harris was President we'd basically see a cruise control of what Biden was doing. In many respects, I think we'd have a similar economy as to what Trump has now, so to me that's a bit of wash. We'd have borders than are more open than they are now but also wouldn't have masked men kidnapping people and shooting people in the streets.
So really it comes down to, do you want the country moving slowly left on cruise control without blowing up diplomatic relations and without a garbage truck full of corruption and deplorable acts, or do you want the country moving back to the right but with all that the garbage truck of corruption brings?
At this point I'd rather have Harris and then hopefully get a much better conservative in office in 2028 to bring us back to the right and hopefully add some fiscal stewardship on top. As I said in 2016 when I didn't vote for Trump, I could never tell my kids I voted for that type of person and sadly that's one prediction that seems to have been reinforced by behavior x1000.
Are you making the assertion that the Biden administration was not rife with corruption?
"You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell
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@Renauda said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
@LuFins-Dad said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
One quick question, have we heard why Kushner refused to meet with the Ministers?
This:
A French official told The Hill Monday that Kushner did not show up to the foreign ministry when he was summoned, a breach of diplomatic protocol. As a result, Kushner is now denied meetings with French ministers.
He refused to a summons from the French Foreign Minister.
Again, do we know why he refused the summons? I would be very curious to that.
When summoned to by the host foreign ministry, a serving ambassador is obliged to comply with the order. That is understood and accepted diplomatic protocol.
Protocol is fine. And when broken it can be a very powerful message. I would like to know what the message they are sending is, and why.
@LuFins-Dad said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
@Renauda said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
@LuFins-Dad said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
One quick question, have we heard why Kushner refused to meet with the Ministers?
This:
A French official told The Hill Monday that Kushner did not show up to the foreign ministry when he was summoned, a breach of diplomatic protocol. As a result, Kushner is now denied meetings with French ministers.
He refused to a summons from the French Foreign Minister.
Again, do we know why he refused the summons? I would be very curious to that.
When summoned to by the host foreign ministry, a serving ambassador is obliged to comply with the order. That is understood and accepted diplomatic protocol.
Protocol is fine. And when broken it can be a very powerful message. I would like to know what the message they are sending is, and why.
He did not comply with the summons. He was obliged to do so. That is how it works the world over. Full stop.
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@89th said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
I think we know if Harris was President we'd basically see a cruise control of what Biden was doing. In many respects, I think we'd have a similar economy as to what Trump has now, so to me that's a bit of wash. We'd have borders than are more open than they are now but also wouldn't have masked men kidnapping people and shooting people in the streets.
So really it comes down to, do you want the country moving slowly left on cruise control without blowing up diplomatic relations and without a garbage truck full of corruption and deplorable acts, or do you want the country moving back to the right but with all that the garbage truck of corruption brings?
At this point I'd rather have Harris and then hopefully get a much better conservative in office in 2028 to bring us back to the right and hopefully add some fiscal stewardship on top. As I said in 2016 when I didn't vote for Trump, I could never tell my kids I voted for that type of person and sadly that's one prediction that seems to have been reinforced by behavior x1000.
Are you making the assertion that the Biden administration was not rife with corruption?
@Mik said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
Are you making the assertion that the Biden administration was not rife with corruption?
If you think that is the proper way to describe corruption in the Biden administration, what words would you use to describe the corruption of the current administration?
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@Mik said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
Yeah, there's really no message there other than arrogance and disrespect.
I mean, sounds like it was a basic protest move. And you know what, I guess it will sort of work as it brings light to the antisemitism in France that is going unchecked. Whether he is right or wrong, who knows... but it's more protest than anything, it seems.
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@89th said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
I think we know if Harris was President we'd basically see a cruise control of what Biden was doing. In many respects, I think we'd have a similar economy as to what Trump has now, so to me that's a bit of wash. We'd have borders than are more open than they are now but also wouldn't have masked men kidnapping people and shooting people in the streets.
So really it comes down to, do you want the country moving slowly left on cruise control without blowing up diplomatic relations and without a garbage truck full of corruption and deplorable acts, or do you want the country moving back to the right but with all that the garbage truck of corruption brings?
At this point I'd rather have Harris and then hopefully get a much better conservative in office in 2028 to bring us back to the right and hopefully add some fiscal stewardship on top. As I said in 2016 when I didn't vote for Trump, I could never tell my kids I voted for that type of person and sadly that's one prediction that seems to have been reinforced by behavior x1000.
Are you making the assertion that the Biden administration was not rife with corruption?
@Mik said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
@89th said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
I think we know if Harris was President we'd basically see a cruise control of what Biden was doing. In many respects, I think we'd have a similar economy as to what Trump has now, so to me that's a bit of wash. We'd have borders than are more open than they are now but also wouldn't have masked men kidnapping people and shooting people in the streets.
So really it comes down to, do you want the country moving slowly left on cruise control without blowing up diplomatic relations and without a garbage truck full of corruption and deplorable acts, or do you want the country moving back to the right but with all that the garbage truck of corruption brings?
At this point I'd rather have Harris and then hopefully get a much better conservative in office in 2028 to bring us back to the right and hopefully add some fiscal stewardship on top. As I said in 2016 when I didn't vote for Trump, I could never tell my kids I voted for that type of person and sadly that's one prediction that seems to have been reinforced by behavior x1000.
Are you making the assertion that the Biden administration was not rife with corruption?
Correct, I would not say Biden had widespread corruption. Statistically, I'd wager there's at least a 2,000% increase in corruption in Trump's 2nd administration than Biden's. For example, when people talk about Biden they talk about $20 million in foreign deals because of the Biden name, whereas when they talk about Trump they are looking at around $5,000 million (or 5 billion). Like the Bears, it's not even in the same
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