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Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯

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    Horace
    wrote on 24 Sept 2020, 00:33 last edited by
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    Yet another petulant tantrum led and condoned by the virtuous adults in the room. Btw the adults in the room are imbeciles.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • G George K
      24 Sept 2020, 00:14

      TuCa outlined the facts of the case.

      1. It was NOT a "no-knock" warrant. Police identified themselves and knocked, according to an eyewitness, eight times.
      2. Upon entering the dark apartment, Taylor's boyfriend, a drug dealer (that's what the warrant was about), shot and struck a police officer.
      3. The indicted cop returned fire, hitting Taylor by accident.

      "Reckless endangerment" because he fired 10 rounds.

      So, how many times is a cop supposed to shoot when shot at?

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 24 Sept 2020, 00:33 last edited by
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      @George-K said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

      TuCa outlined the facts of the case.

      1. Upon entering the dark apartment, Taylor's boyfriend, a drug dealer (that's what the warrant was about), shot and struck a police officer.

      I don't think that's correct. From what I've read, the boyfriend who fired at the police was Kenneth Walker, the drug dealers under investigation were Jamarcus Glover and Adrian Walker (no relation). Glover was an ex-boyfriend.

      I was only joking

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 24 Sept 2020, 00:47 last edited by
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        I never follow these cases but I thought I read there were conflicting accounts about how much knocking and identifying went on. I think I read that none of the neighbor’s accounts matched that of law enforcement.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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        • D Doctor Phibes
          24 Sept 2020, 00:33

          @George-K said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

          TuCa outlined the facts of the case.

          1. Upon entering the dark apartment, Taylor's boyfriend, a drug dealer (that's what the warrant was about), shot and struck a police officer.

          I don't think that's correct. From what I've read, the boyfriend who fired at the police was Kenneth Walker, the drug dealers under investigation were Jamarcus Glover and Adrian Walker (no relation). Glover was an ex-boyfriend.

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          George K
          wrote on 24 Sept 2020, 00:58 last edited by
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          @Doctor-Phibes said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

          @George-K said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

          I don't think that's correct. From what I've read, the boyfriend who fired at the police was Kenneth Walker, the drug dealers under investigation were Jamarcus Glover and Adrian Walker (no relation). Glover was an ex-boyfriend.

          As with Jon, I haven't followed the details too closely. But the fact is that someone in the apartment fired at the police.

          What should the police have done in that case? Say "Don't shoot!"?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            George K
            wrote on 24 Sept 2020, 01:00 last edited by
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            A cop has been shot in Louisville. πŸ€•

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 24 Sept 2020, 01:06 last edited by
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              @George-K To be clear, this never seemed indictable to me. I just think TC is picking and choosing which witnesses to believe when he presents his narrative.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • J jon-nyc
                24 Sept 2020, 01:06

                @George-K To be clear, this never seemed indictable to me. I just think TC is picking and choosing which witnesses to believe when he presents his narrative.

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                George K
                wrote on 24 Sept 2020, 01:10 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                I just think TC is picking and choosing which witnesses to believe when he presents his narrative.

                That might be the case. However, the grand jury has heard all evidence from the prosecution, and chose to refer only one of the cops for indictment. I would guess that they heard the eyewitness.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • G George K
                  24 Sept 2020, 00:58

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                  @George-K said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                  I don't think that's correct. From what I've read, the boyfriend who fired at the police was Kenneth Walker, the drug dealers under investigation were Jamarcus Glover and Adrian Walker (no relation). Glover was an ex-boyfriend.

                  As with Jon, I haven't followed the details too closely. But the fact is that someone in the apartment fired at the police.

                  What should the police have done in that case? Say "Don't shoot!"?

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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on 24 Sept 2020, 01:23 last edited by
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                  @George-K said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                  @George-K said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                  I don't think that's correct. From what I've read, the boyfriend who fired at the police was Kenneth Walker, the drug dealers under investigation were Jamarcus Glover and Adrian Walker (no relation). Glover was an ex-boyfriend.

                  As with Jon, I haven't followed the details too closely. But the fact is that someone in the apartment fired at the police.

                  What should the police have done in that case? Say "Don't shoot!"?

                  Conversely, Kenneth Walker was licensed to carry, and a bunch of people come piling into the house, who he may or may not have known were the police. Is it particularly surprising that he fired at them?

                  I was only joking

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                    George K
                    wrote on 24 Sept 2020, 01:25 last edited by
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                    Two cops shot.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 24 Sept 2020, 01:26 last edited by Horace
                      #21

                      right, so if it was a white guy we'd all assume he was a borderline outlaw with reason to shoot first and ask questions later, and the sum total of tears shed would be the tears of his family. We wouldn't have heard about it, and if for some reason we had, we wouldn't have cared.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • D Doctor Phibes
                        24 Sept 2020, 01:23

                        @George-K said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                        @George-K said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                        I don't think that's correct. From what I've read, the boyfriend who fired at the police was Kenneth Walker, the drug dealers under investigation were Jamarcus Glover and Adrian Walker (no relation). Glover was an ex-boyfriend.

                        As with Jon, I haven't followed the details too closely. But the fact is that someone in the apartment fired at the police.

                        What should the police have done in that case? Say "Don't shoot!"?

                        Conversely, Kenneth Walker was licensed to carry, and a bunch of people come piling into the house, who he may or may not have known were the police. Is it particularly surprising that he fired at them?

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                        Aqua Letifer
                        wrote on 24 Sept 2020, 01:26 last edited by
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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                        Conversely, Kenneth Walker was licensed to carry, and a bunch of people come piling into the house, who he may or may not have known were the police. Is it particularly surprising that he fired at them?

                        That's what was reported. He thought they were home invaders. No body cams on the officers; we just have their testimony saying they knocked and announced themselves, and all the neighbors saying otherwise. Which, c'mon.

                        Please love yourself.

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 24 Sept 2020, 01:28 last edited by
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                          The left, commenting on this case but for a different skin color of the slain: "Well, we told you, guns are bad. More likely to kill you than protect you. Tsk tsk."

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • G George K
                            24 Sept 2020, 01:25

                            Two cops shot.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 24 Sept 2020, 01:49 last edited by
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                            @George-K said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                            Two cops shot.

                            One officer was shot in the abdomen below their bulletproof vest and is in surgery, and a second was shot in the thigh, according to the source.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              24 Sept 2020, 01:26

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                              Conversely, Kenneth Walker was licensed to carry, and a bunch of people come piling into the house, who he may or may not have known were the police. Is it particularly surprising that he fired at them?

                              That's what was reported. He thought they were home invaders. No body cams on the officers; we just have their testimony saying they knocked and announced themselves, and all the neighbors saying otherwise. Which, c'mon.

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                              Copper
                              wrote on 24 Sept 2020, 01:50 last edited by Copper
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                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                              Conversely, Kenneth Walker was licensed to carry, and a bunch of people come piling into the house, who he may or may not have known were the police. Is it particularly surprising that he fired at them?

                              That's what was reported. He thought they were home invaders. No body cams on the officers; we just have their testimony saying they knocked and announced themselves, and all the neighbors saying otherwise. Which, c'mon.

                              According to the AG announcing the indictment that is not the case.

                              https://wfpl.org/ky-ag-cameron-explains-breonna-taylor-investigation-grand-jurys-indictment/

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 24 Sept 2020, 02:28 last edited by
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                                So the only police officer facing charges is the one officer that DIDN’T shoot Taylor, and the charges he faces are for missing. Missing very badly.

                                The Brad

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                                • A Aqua Letifer
                                  24 Sept 2020, 01:26

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                                  Conversely, Kenneth Walker was licensed to carry, and a bunch of people come piling into the house, who he may or may not have known were the police. Is it particularly surprising that he fired at them?

                                  That's what was reported. He thought they were home invaders. No body cams on the officers; we just have their testimony saying they knocked and announced themselves, and all the neighbors saying otherwise. Which, c'mon.

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 24 Sept 2020, 02:35 last edited by
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                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                                  That's what was reported. He thought they were home invaders. No body cams on the officers; we just have their testimony saying they knocked and announced themselves, and all the neighbors saying otherwise. Which, c'mon.

                                  There was one neighbor that testified they did knock and announce themselves. The grand jury did have all of the testimony from the neighbors to weigh in theiir deliberation, and until we find evidence otherwise, we have to assume they legitimately found no reason to pursue charges.

                                  I might add that in that neighborhood, it seems likely that most neighbors would dispute anything involving the police...

                                  The Brad

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 24 Sept 2020, 02:39 last edited by
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                                    Just heard an attorney and former head of the Louisville NAACP interviewed. He stated emphatically that the warrant was issued legally and that police procedure was properly followed in carrying out the warrant.

                                    He stated the officers returned fire when shot at. The young lady's death was a horrible tragedy, but was not intentional nor racist.I

                                    He was worried about mob violence and a disrespect for the rule of law.

                                    β€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". β€” Buck Sexton

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on 24 Sept 2020, 02:50 last edited by
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                                      That's good to hear.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • L LuFins Dad
                                        24 Sept 2020, 02:35

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                                        That's what was reported. He thought they were home invaders. No body cams on the officers; we just have their testimony saying they knocked and announced themselves, and all the neighbors saying otherwise. Which, c'mon.

                                        There was one neighbor that testified they did knock and announce themselves. The grand jury did have all of the testimony from the neighbors to weigh in theiir deliberation, and until we find evidence otherwise, we have to assume they legitimately found no reason to pursue charges.

                                        I might add that in that neighborhood, it seems likely that most neighbors would dispute anything involving the police...

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                                        Aqua Letifer
                                        wrote on 24 Sept 2020, 02:52 last edited by
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                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                                        That's what was reported. He thought they were home invaders. No body cams on the officers; we just have their testimony saying they knocked and announced themselves, and all the neighbors saying otherwise. Which, c'mon.

                                        There was one neighbor that testified they did knock and announce themselves. The grand jury did have all of the testimony from the neighbors to weigh in theiir deliberation, and until we find evidence otherwise, we have to assume they legitimately found no reason to pursue charges.

                                        Fair enough.

                                        I might add that in that neighborhood, it seems likely that most neighbors would dispute anything involving the police...

                                        Yeah because police officers never corroborate each other's stories to protect themselves. Like, never.

                                        I think the chances are good the officers charged in a little too eagerly. I didn't say that's what happened, no one here knows that. I'm just guessing. I absolutely don't buy the racism garbage.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • J Jolly
                                          24 Sept 2020, 02:39

                                          Just heard an attorney and former head of the Louisville NAACP interviewed. He stated emphatically that the warrant was issued legally and that police procedure was properly followed in carrying out the warrant.

                                          He stated the officers returned fire when shot at. The young lady's death was a horrible tragedy, but was not intentional nor racist.I

                                          He was worried about mob violence and a disrespect for the rule of law.

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                                          Aqua Letifer
                                          wrote on 24 Sept 2020, 02:54 last edited by
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                                          @Jolly said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                                          He was worried about mob violence and a disrespect for the rule of law.

                                          Ya think???

                                          Please love yourself.

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