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I don’t recall seeing such seething hatred for the constitution

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    AndyD
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    It's seems to be about lack of respect for Law & Order.
    Starts with the President, ridiculous pardoning powers, and just filters down.

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      Bringing balance to the (police) Force.

      I was only joking

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        #7

        He just goes overboard on everything he does. It's not so much the goals as the methods and rhetoric.

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        • MikM Mik

          He just goes overboard on everything he does. It's not so much the goals as the methods and rhetoric.

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          @Mik said in I don’t recall seeing such seething hatred for the constitution:

          He just goes overboard on everything he does. It's not so much the goals as the methods and rhetoric.

          It's why some people love him so much. It's easy to confuse a lack of subtlety for passion and commitment.

          I was only joking

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Meanwhile, Maga be like:

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            LuFins Dad
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            @jon-nyc said in I don’t recall seeing such seething hatred for the constitution:

            Meanwhile, Maga be like:

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            Okay, that’s funny.

            The Brad

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            • MikM Mik

              He just goes overboard on everything he does. It's not so much the goals as the methods and rhetoric.

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              89th
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              @Mik said in I don’t recall seeing such seething hatred for the constitution:

              He just goes overboard on everything he does. It's not so much the goals as the methods and rhetoric.

              Well put. I think I've said before I like the ideas behind most of his plans, but how he does it, the lying, the laziness, the lack of respect for so many lives being absolutely ruined, not just with ICE but so many other efforts. I wish he could put his alpha-dog leadership (which I like) and America-first (which I like) to good use. Like a wasted talent.

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              • 89th8 89th

                We've been seeing vides of this on reddit for many months, this is not breaking news. They are literally saying on tape "I stopped you because of your accent" or "I asked where you were born because of how you look" they force people out of cars, they literally forced a family (in my neighbor's in-law's neighborhood JUST TODAY) out of their home without a warrant.

                I have no problem with immigration enforcement, certainly if they go after actual criminals first, but they are stopping because openly admitting because of the accent or skin color. Heck, at 3pm they raided a construction site about 2 miles north to haul off some folks roofing (yes, in negative degree temps they are working hard with their kids in school). Sorry kids, hope you had a good day in school but dad isn't coming back to this home ever again.

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                @89th said in I don’t recall seeing such seething hatred for the constitution:
                Heck, at 3pm they raided a construction site about 2 miles north to haul off some folks roofing (yes, in negative degree temps they are working hard with their kids in school).

                There is going to be a serious problem with people getting a new roof if all these illegal immigrants are deported. Most of the illegals have found a valuable place in the economy doing things that Americans can't or won't do. I'm starting to think they should let the GOOD people apply for citizenship if they are doing something useful.

                Flushing the toilet is like practicing the piano; you just cannot go too long without doing it.--Axtremus

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                  89th
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                  So in the first year they have detained about 5,000 illegals with criminal records, and have detailed about 25,000 illegals without a criminal record.

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                  • Tom-KT Tom-K

                    @89th said in I don’t recall seeing such seething hatred for the constitution:
                    Heck, at 3pm they raided a construction site about 2 miles north to haul off some folks roofing (yes, in negative degree temps they are working hard with their kids in school).

                    There is going to be a serious problem with people getting a new roof if all these illegal immigrants are deported. Most of the illegals have found a valuable place in the economy doing things that Americans can't or won't do. I'm starting to think they should let the GOOD people apply for citizenship if they are doing something useful.

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                    @Tom-K said in I don’t recall seeing such seething hatred for the constitution:

                    There is going to be a serious problem with people getting a new roof if all these illegal immigrants are deported. Most of the illegals have found a valuable place in the economy doing things that Americans can't or won't do. I'm starting to think they should let the GOOD people apply for citizenship if they are doing something useful.

                    Uh huh. Two of them just laid a floor for me this week. Did a beautiful job.

                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                      Yeah most folks rely on their cheap/skilled labor without thinking twice. Painters, construction, chefs in a Mexican restaurant, farm workers... That's what bothers me, most of those 25,000 non-criminal detainees were just hard working dads trying to make money for their family. Makes me sick to see it.

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                        AndyD
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                        As I understand your law, it is a criminal offence to enter the USA by illegal methods, whether by jumping a fence, hitching a boat ride or presenting a fake passport at customs.
                        These people may be gun toting drug dealers or hard working catholics, no matter, they are criminals as defined by federal law.

                        Just as it is the law that your President can legally blanket pardon armed rioters who caused or contributed to multiple deaths when attacking your Capitol Building.

                        You need a decent potus & scotus to review the crap out of your laws/constitution.
                        And I say this as a true admirer of the US.

                        Over here we keep chipping away at injustices. About time to dethrone the Royal Family for starters, stop paying for 23 decadent Royal Estates.

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                          While immigration law is actually a civil (not criminal) matter, if someone enters the USA illegally, it technically is a criminal act, but let's clarify what level of crime. It is a misdemeanor for the first offense, the same "criminal" level as dropping a cigarette butt from your car window or shaking a broom out of your New York apartment window. (seriously) Now, if you are deported and return illegally, that is a felony.

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                            If you return illegally three times is your sentence life?

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                              As I understand your law, it is a criminal offence to enter the USA by illegal methods, whether by jumping a fence, hitching a boat ride or presenting a fake passport at customs.
                              These people may be gun toting drug dealers or hard working catholics, no matter, they are criminals as defined by federal law.

                              Just as it is the law that your President can legally blanket pardon armed rioters who caused or contributed to multiple deaths when attacking your Capitol Building.

                              You need a decent potus & scotus to review the crap out of your laws/constitution.
                              And I say this as a true admirer of the US.

                              Over here we keep chipping away at injustices. About time to dethrone the Royal Family for starters, stop paying for 23 decadent Royal Estates.

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                              Renauda
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                              @AndyD

                              About time to dethrone the Royal Family for starters, stop paying for 23 decadent Royal Estates.

                              And then adopt republican governance?

                              Repugnant.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • A AndyD

                                If you return illegally three times is your sentence life?

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                                @AndyD said in I don’t recall seeing such seething hatred for the constitution:

                                If you return illegally three times is your sentence life?

                                Nope, once you commit enough crimes they actually make you President! Weird law.

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                                  Yeah this entry authorization will not, and should not, stand. I’m sure suits to stop this are already filed

                                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                    @AndyD

                                    About time to dethrone the Royal Family for starters, stop paying for 23 decadent Royal Estates.

                                    And then adopt republican governance?

                                    Repugnant.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
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                                    @Renauda said in I don’t recall seeing such seething hatred for the constitution:

                                    @AndyD

                                    About time to dethrone the Royal Family for starters, stop paying for 23 decadent Royal Estates.

                                    And then adopt republican governance?

                                    Repugnant.

                                    President Farage may only be a few short years away.

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                                    I was only joking

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                                      Renauda
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                                      All the more reason not to go that route.

                                      Elbows up!

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