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Just one unforced error after another

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  • A AndyD

    @xenon said

    @AndyD why? Do we need to do that to build bases? Do we have a lot of money to throw around right now?

    We need to throw money around to build bases?

    Bribery is effective and of course far better than fighting.
    As for money, you have it: each Presidential election costs a billion and federal elections in 2020 are reported as costing 14 billion. With tarrifs coming in and Venezuelan oil on the horizon, Mr T will finish that border wall and have loads spare for a forward base in the far North of Greenland.

    You'd actually get something concrete (if icy) instead of another oily politician for a few years. A new frontier for you.
    And the world would have the USA providing far better defence than Denmark against Russian and Chinese expansionism.

    I can quite see Trump as another Sir Francis Blake Delaval of Delaval Hall in Northumberland, who, on nomination day in 1754 won the Hampshire parliamentary seat of Andover by firing a cannon filled with 500 golden guineas across the town square.

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    @AndyD said in Just one unforced error after another:

    Bribery is effective and of course far better than fighting.

    I like that. 50,000 people give them each a million dollars to vote to become part of the US--that 50 billion. Chump change and everybody's happy.

    Flushing the toilet is like practicing the piano; you just cannot go too long without doing it.--Axtremus

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    • A AndyD

      @xenon said

      @AndyD why? Do we need to do that to build bases? Do we have a lot of money to throw around right now?

      We need to throw money around to build bases?

      Bribery is effective and of course far better than fighting.
      As for money, you have it: each Presidential election costs a billion and federal elections in 2020 are reported as costing 14 billion. With tarrifs coming in and Venezuelan oil on the horizon, Mr T will finish that border wall and have loads spare for a forward base in the far North of Greenland.

      You'd actually get something concrete (if icy) instead of another oily politician for a few years. A new frontier for you.
      And the world would have the USA providing far better defence than Denmark against Russian and Chinese expansionism.

      I can quite see Trump as another Sir Francis Blake Delaval of Delaval Hall in Northumberland, who, on nomination day in 1754 won the Hampshire parliamentary seat of Andover by firing a cannon filled with 500 golden guineas across the town square.

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      @AndyD said in Just one unforced error after another:

      With tarrifs coming in and Venezuelan oil on the horizon, Mr T will finish that border wall and have loads spare for a forward base in the far North of Greenland.

      Maybe he can get a FIFA Economics Prize to go with his Peace award.

      I was only joking

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      • Tom-KT Tom-K

        @AndyD said in Just one unforced error after another:

        Bribery is effective and of course far better than fighting.

        I like that. 50,000 people give them each a million dollars to vote to become part of the US--that 50 billion. Chump change and everybody's happy.

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        @Tom-K said in Just one unforced error after another:

        @AndyD said in Just one unforced error after another:

        Bribery is effective and of course far better than fighting.

        I like that. 50,000 people give them each a million dollars to vote to become part of the US--that 50 billion. Chump change and everybody's happy.

        My question though is - what do we get for $50B? We're already allowed to build bases there.

        I thought we wanted Europe to pull their fair share and make their own bases.

        I honestly don't understand what's going on here.

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          @Tom-K said in Just one unforced error after another:

          @AndyD said in Just one unforced error after another:

          Bribery is effective and of course far better than fighting.

          I like that. 50,000 people give them each a million dollars to vote to become part of the US--that 50 billion. Chump change and everybody's happy.

          My question though is - what do we get for $50B? We're already allowed to build bases there.

          I thought we wanted Europe to pull their fair share and make their own bases.

          I honestly don't understand what's going on here.

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          @xenon said in Just one unforced error after another:

          I honestly don't understand what's going on here.

          There's a horse loose in the hospital.

          Link to video

          I was only joking

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            You offered the current equivalent of 1.7 billion to Denmark after the WW2.

            Guarantee the Greenlanders money when they have voted to join the States. The individual people. Not Denmark.

            The minerals thought to be there are worth trillions, and include REE.

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              Well - if I had ownership of trillions of dollars of something and decided to sell it…. I’d probably auction it to the highest bidder.

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                And if Xi or Kim or Putin win?
                Greenlanders would be both selling and trading.
                Its not just about the cash, it's also about maintaining their way of life balanced with new US citizenship.
                What's US citizenship worth?

                I'm pointing out the idea has a lot of upsides

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                  European troops arrive in Greenland

                  NUUK, Greenland (AP) — Troops from several European countries continued to arrive in Greenland on Thursday in a show of support for Denmark as talks between representatives of Denmark, Greenland and the U.S. highlighted “fundamental disagreement” over the future of the Arctic island.

                  I was only joking

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                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                    @89th

                    It’s okay….

                    If you looked at the map right now, would it make more sense for Greenland to be part of Canada or the USA, or part of a small European country that can’t defend anything..

                    Not at at all. Collective security is what the NATO Alliance is all about. Greenland falls under the umbrella of NATO.

                    As is the US already has near to unfettered access to Greenland for the purpose of security. Denmark and Greenland have made that clear to Washington repeatedly. Trump knows (or should know) that as should his minions and lackeys.

                    It is pure and simple covetous narcissism and imperialist ambition on the part of Trumpigula. There is something there he wants to claim and control all for himself very bigly and muchly.

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                    @Renauda said in Just one unforced error after another:

                    Not at at all. Collective security is what the NATO Alliance is all about. Greenland falls under the umbrella of NATO.

                    There you go making sense again! 555

                    President Trump saying he wants to take over because otherwise Russia or China will is nonsense. They know that an attack on Greenland is an attack on NATO, and NATO will respond.

                    (I have a distant friend (Lara) who is from Greenland. Ethnic Denmark (I think) but grew in Greenland. Asked her what the mood was in Greenland. Probably 99% against becoming a colony or US state.

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                      I'd imagine so. Offering them money won't change that and is boorish. Not that that's a surprise.

                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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