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"I gave my dad a choice"

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #4

    You know, there's a sickness or two across the fence, who I'm sure would do the same thing.

    How does anybody get to that point?

    I've got a SIL that is a union steward and a big Biden supporter. I haven't even seriously threatened him, let alone started digging his grave out in the woods...

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      #5

      Within normal bounds for a modern lefty. The ideas about Trump are totally commonplace. The only fringy thing is how far that person is willing to go to adhere to those beliefs. Most WTF posters would check every single one of those belief boxes.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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        Aqua Letifer
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        #6

        Shit, I like Trumpists. Least they don't hate me for my white maleness, which sad to say goes a long way these days.

        It's hard for me to talk with my folks about politics, though. They're fully on board with Team Uncle Joe, and I'm just not. I still don't know what I'm going to do in November.

        Please love yourself.

        George KG 1 Reply Last reply
        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          Shit, I like Trumpists. Least they don't hate me for my white maleness, which sad to say goes a long way these days.

          It's hard for me to talk with my folks about politics, though. They're fully on board with Team Uncle Joe, and I'm just not. I still don't know what I'm going to do in November.

          George KG Offline
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          George K
          wrote on last edited by
          #7

          @Aqua-Letifer said in "I gave my dad a choice":

          they don't hate me for my white maleness

          True, dat.

          There are so many other reasons to hate you.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K

            @Aqua-Letifer said in "I gave my dad a choice":

            they don't hate me for my white maleness

            True, dat.

            There are so many other reasons to hate you.

            Aqua LetiferA Offline
            Aqua LetiferA Offline
            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on last edited by
            #8

            @George-K said in "I gave my dad a choice":

            @Aqua-Letifer said in "I gave my dad a choice":

            they don't hate me for my white maleness

            True, dat.

            There are so many other reasons to hate you.

            Right?? Like, things I'm actually guilty of, things I should actually be ashamed about!

            Please love yourself.

            George KG 1 Reply Last reply
            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @George-K said in "I gave my dad a choice":

              @Aqua-Letifer said in "I gave my dad a choice":

              they don't hate me for my white maleness

              True, dat.

              There are so many other reasons to hate you.

              Right?? Like, things I'm actually guilty of, things I should actually be ashamed about!

              George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #9

              @Aqua-Letifer said in "I gave my dad a choice":

              @George-K said in "I gave my dad a choice":

              @Aqua-Letifer said in "I gave my dad a choice":

              they don't hate me for my white maleness

              True, dat.

              There are so many other reasons to hate you.

              Right?? Like, things I'm actually guilty of, things I should actually be ashamed about!

              "Should" but "aren't," amirite?

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

              Aqua LetiferA 1 Reply Last reply
              • George KG George K

                @Aqua-Letifer said in "I gave my dad a choice":

                @George-K said in "I gave my dad a choice":

                @Aqua-Letifer said in "I gave my dad a choice":

                they don't hate me for my white maleness

                True, dat.

                There are so many other reasons to hate you.

                Right?? Like, things I'm actually guilty of, things I should actually be ashamed about!

                "Should" but "aren't," amirite?

                Aqua LetiferA Offline
                Aqua LetiferA Offline
                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on last edited by
                #10

                @George-K said in "I gave my dad a choice":

                @Aqua-Letifer said in "I gave my dad a choice":

                @George-K said in "I gave my dad a choice":

                @Aqua-Letifer said in "I gave my dad a choice":

                they don't hate me for my white maleness

                True, dat.

                There are so many other reasons to hate you.

                Right?? Like, things I'm actually guilty of, things I should actually be ashamed about!

                "Should" but "aren't," amirite?

                Really I'm not. At all.

                Please love yourself.

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                • MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
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                  #11

                  I cannot believe someone would use his children so cruelly.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • F Offline
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                    Friday
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                    #12

                    But in his mind he is being a good father because he is protecting them from their grandfather's crazy.

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
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                      #13

                      Something tells me the dad’s not too upset about this dick not visiting.

                      The Brad

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                      • F Friday

                        But in his mind he is being a good father because he is protecting them from their grandfather's crazy.

                        Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                        Aqua Letifer
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                        #14

                        @Friday said in "I gave my dad a choice":

                        But in his mind he is being a good father because he is protecting them from their grandfather's crazy.

                        Yeah, that's the problem. That's how it happens.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • HoraceH Offline
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                          Horace
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                          #15

                          Yes it’s why I believe righteousness becomes the most important human failing after laws and mores get rid of the more obviously selfish failings through legal punishment and shame.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            Yes it’s why I believe righteousness becomes the most important human failing after laws and mores get rid of the more obviously selfish failings through legal punishment and shame.

                            Aqua LetiferA Offline
                            Aqua LetiferA Offline
                            Aqua Letifer
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                            #16

                            @Horace said in "I gave my dad a choice":

                            Yes it’s why I believe righteousness becomes the most important human failing after laws and mores get rid of the more obviously selfish failings through legal punishment and shame.

                            I don't think it's just that. I think Peterson is right in that we literally see different realities from one another. There's considerable overlap but there are things people see that others don't. In other words, none of us is completely exempt from being delusional. That's why some things can't even be explained to others, let alone seen. It's a far deeper problem than righteousness.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                              @Horace said in "I gave my dad a choice":

                              Yes it’s why I believe righteousness becomes the most important human failing after laws and mores get rid of the more obviously selfish failings through legal punishment and shame.

                              I don't think it's just that. I think Peterson is right in that we literally see different realities from one another. There's considerable overlap but there are things people see that others don't. In other words, none of us is completely exempt from being delusional. That's why some things can't even be explained to others, let alone seen. It's a far deeper problem than righteousness.

                              brendaB Offline
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                              brenda
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #17

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in "I gave my dad a choice":

                              @Horace said in "I gave my dad a choice":

                              Yes it’s why I believe righteousness becomes the most important human failing after laws and mores get rid of the more obviously selfish failings through legal punishment and shame.

                              I don't think it's just that. I think Peterson is right in that we literally see different realities from one another. There's considerable overlap but there are things people see that others don't. In other words, none of us is completely exempt from being delusional. That's why some things can't even be explained to others, let alone seen. It's a far deeper problem than righteousness.

                              This. It's like two different worlds occupying the same time and space.

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #18

                                Mrs. Phibes visits a Reddit place called 'Am I the asshole?', where people tell all kinds of stories of bizarre behaviour like this, and so ask the question in the title.

                                Sometimes the answer is 'hell, no!' and sometimes it's 'hell, yes!'.

                                This sort of thing isn't restricted to politics.

                                I was only joking

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  Mrs. Phibes visits a Reddit place called 'Am I the asshole?', where people tell all kinds of stories of bizarre behaviour like this, and so ask the question in the title.

                                  Sometimes the answer is 'hell, no!' and sometimes it's 'hell, yes!'.

                                  This sort of thing isn't restricted to politics.

                                  George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #19

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in "I gave my dad a choice":

                                  Mrs. Phibes visits a Reddit place called 'Am I the asshole?',

                                  Sounds like a ton of fun.

                                  They probably have serious discussions about loading the toilet paper roll "over" or "under."

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in "I gave my dad a choice":

                                    Mrs. Phibes visits a Reddit place called 'Am I the asshole?',

                                    Sounds like a ton of fun.

                                    They probably have serious discussions about loading the toilet paper roll "over" or "under."

                                    Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                    Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #20

                                    @George-K said in "I gave my dad a choice":

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in "I gave my dad a choice":

                                    Mrs. Phibes visits a Reddit place called 'Am I the asshole?',

                                    Sounds like a ton of fun.

                                    They probably have serious discussions about loading the toilet paper roll "over" or "under."

                                    There's a lot of stupid family stuff - it's a window into humanity.

                                    https://lifehacker.com/the-greatest-stories-from-the-am-i-the-asshole-subredd-1837987235

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      https://medium.com/@guinanleo/today-i-gave-my-dad-a-choice-trump-or-his-grandkids-and-his-son-b2f971ed39f9

                                      I wrote earlier about trying to express my reasons to my dad in a calm and intellectual manner. I actually thought I had been calm and well-reasoned. I thought I might even be making progress.

                                      Today I found out he put a Trump sign in his yard.

                                      I got pissed. Really pissed. And I sent him and my mom a text message. Hands shaking, tears in eyes. This is what it said:

                                      Due to the signs in the yard, the kids and I will not be down. The current occupant of the White House is preaching hate and violence, endangering the lives and safety of many of my friends. This is not acceptable to me at all. There is a complete disregard for women, minorities, science, ethics, and morality. Please consider if you support Trump that much. Because I hate him that much. I wanted to be upfront and honest about my feelings.

                                      And then I went for a walk to calm down. And the more I thought about it, the more I agreed with the message. At this point, it is not acceptable to me. You can vote for whom you wish. But I can choose who I surround myself with. I love my dad, but I can’t be around him until he understands how vital I believe this election to be and what is truly at stake. It is not easy. But it was necessary. Now to see what fallout occurs.

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                                      @George-K said in "I gave my dad a choice":

                                      Due to the signs in the yard, the kids and I will not be down. The current occupant of the White House is preaching hate and violence, endangering the lives and safety of many of my friends. This is not acceptable to me at all. There is a complete disregard for women, minorities, science, ethics, and morality. Please consider if you support Trump that much. Because I hate him that much. I wanted to be upfront and honest about my feelings.

                                      Calm down, bro.

                                      Stop and think if Trump really has an impact on you or your friends/family. Most likely not at all. Stop getting sucked into the Hollywood/MSM narrative.

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                                        Axtremus
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                                        #22

                                        Let’s try a more extreme case:

                                        Suppose an Aryan child took a Jew for a spouse and produced half-Jewish children, and the Aryan child’s parent (the half-Jewish children’s grandparent) professes to support Adolf Hitler along with Hitler’s professed policy to exterminate all Jews, would the Aryan child be right to gave the half-Jewish children’s grandparent a choice to either supporting Hitler or never see the half-Jewish grandchildren again?

                                        (Note the irony that Hitler’s policy will make it a reality that the Aryan grandparent will not be able to see the half-Jewish grandchildren again.)

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                                          LuFins Dad
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                                          Yeah, I forgot about all of those Trans/Hispanic/Black/Chinese concentration camps that Trump has built. Bastard.

                                          The Brad

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