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Ah the beautiful words from our President

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    How about 'Racial discrimination is ok, in fact it's morally required, as long as you get the valence right.'

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    @jon-nyc said in Ah the beautiful words from our President:

    How about 'Racial discrimination is ok, in fact it's morally required, as long as you get the valence right.'

    About as offensive as the remarks quoted in the opening post.

    Did you get that quote from somewhere or you just paraphrased?

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      In practice the believers tend to euphemise it. Though Ibrahm X Kendi is honest enough to call it discrimination and has certainly expressed the same sentiment as the quote.

      “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

      • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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        Example: ‘The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination’.

        It doesn’t take much reading of him to figure out that he thinks that such discrimination is a moral imperative.

        “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

        • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          In practice the believers tend to euphemise it. Though Ibrahm X Kendi is honest enough to call it discrimination and has certainly expressed the same sentiment as the quote.

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          @jon-nyc

          In practice the believers tend to euphemise it.

          One recalls on this very discussion board, the euphemistic two-bit thug epithet to characterise the 44th President. I believe it was reprised, in a now appreciable rare appearance here, in another thread by its erstwhile author just these past few days.

          Elbows up!

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            He's massively overreacting to the shooting in DC. One, count them, one, Afghan refugee went nuts.

            From Gemini:

            how many of the afghan refugees from the end of the war have committed crimes here

            It is difficult to provide an exact, comprehensive number of crimes committed specifically by Afghan evacuees from the 2021 evacuation because:

            Public data does not typically break down crime statistics by specific refugee or humanitarian parole group. U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and other agencies track arrests and convictions for "criminal aliens," but this data is generally categorized by broader metrics like immigration status or type of crime, not by country of origin for recent refugee cohorts.

            A Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Inspector General audit did identify a small number of Afghan evacuees who were either on or added to the terrorist watchlist as of May 2023. Specifically:

            55 Afghan evacuees were identified by the Terrorist Screening Center (TSC) as of May 2023.

            As of July 2024, nine of these evacuees reportedly remained on the watchlist and were being tracked. The remaining 46 were removed after the FBI determined they were no longer considered a threat.

            Broader Context on Immigrants and Crime:

            General research on crime rates among immigrants, including unauthorized immigrants, and the U.S.-born population consistently finds that immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than people born in the United States.

            One study indicated that U.S. natives are 11.6 times more likely to be incarcerated than Afghan immigrants as a whole (a figure that predates the 2021 evacuation but provides context on the broader Afghan immigrant community).

            Another study found no statistically significant correlation between an increased immigrant share of the population and an increase in the total crime rate.

            While there is no single, publicly released number for criminal convictions among the tens of thousands of Afghans evacuated since 2021, the vetting process for the evacuees has been a significant point of review by federal oversight agencies.

            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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            • MikM Mik

              He's massively overreacting to the shooting in DC. One, count them, one, Afghan refugee went nuts.

              From Gemini:

              how many of the afghan refugees from the end of the war have committed crimes here

              It is difficult to provide an exact, comprehensive number of crimes committed specifically by Afghan evacuees from the 2021 evacuation because:

              Public data does not typically break down crime statistics by specific refugee or humanitarian parole group. U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and other agencies track arrests and convictions for "criminal aliens," but this data is generally categorized by broader metrics like immigration status or type of crime, not by country of origin for recent refugee cohorts.

              A Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Inspector General audit did identify a small number of Afghan evacuees who were either on or added to the terrorist watchlist as of May 2023. Specifically:

              55 Afghan evacuees were identified by the Terrorist Screening Center (TSC) as of May 2023.

              As of July 2024, nine of these evacuees reportedly remained on the watchlist and were being tracked. The remaining 46 were removed after the FBI determined they were no longer considered a threat.

              Broader Context on Immigrants and Crime:

              General research on crime rates among immigrants, including unauthorized immigrants, and the U.S.-born population consistently finds that immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than people born in the United States.

              One study indicated that U.S. natives are 11.6 times more likely to be incarcerated than Afghan immigrants as a whole (a figure that predates the 2021 evacuation but provides context on the broader Afghan immigrant community).

              Another study found no statistically significant correlation between an increased immigrant share of the population and an increase in the total crime rate.

              While there is no single, publicly released number for criminal convictions among the tens of thousands of Afghans evacuated since 2021, the vetting process for the evacuees has been a significant point of review by federal oversight agencies.

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              @Mik said in Ah the beautiful words from our President:

              He's massively overreacting to the shooting in DC

              Never let an opportunity go to waste

              I was only joking

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                Especially when it goes where you've already decided to.

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                  Yup, plus what’s the worse that could happen by placing troops where they aren’t needed?

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                    Yup, plus what’s the worse that could happen by placing troops where they aren’t needed?

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                    @89th said in Ah the beautiful words from our President:

                    Yup, plus what’s the worse that could happen by placing troops where they aren’t needed?

                    Somebody uses the opportunity to make Private Benjamin 2, with 80-year old Goldie Hawn reprising the main role?

                    I was only joking

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                      I asked the worst thing, not the 2nd worst thing!

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