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Speaking of Gyms…

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    By the way Attia warns guys our age about going for deadlift PRs due to injury risk. Squats too. He’s worried about axial load.

    He doesn’t quite say don’t do it, but he’s close. Be careful.

    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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    • MikM Offline
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      Exactly why I stick to the machines.

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        I use a hex bar for deadlifts and a machine for squats. But even then I’m doing weights where I can do 8-10 reps.

        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          By the way Attia warns guys our age about going for deadlift PRs due to injury risk. Squats too. He’s worried about axial load.

          He doesn’t quite say don’t do it, but he’s close. Be careful.

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          @jon-nyc said in Speaking of Gyms…:

          By the way Attia warns guys our age about going for deadlift PRs due to injury risk. Squats too. He’s worried about axial load.

          He doesn’t quite say don’t do it, but he’s close. Be careful.

          3 reps is the lowest I ever go. I never do singles.

          I did have my share of injuries due to squats and deadlifts (such as hernia that required non-trivial surgery). I have become smarter in how to avoid injury.

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          • HoraceH Online
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            That's impressive, Klaus.

            At my gym a lot of the equipment is labeled as designed and manufactured in Italy. And there's some interesting Da Vinci type contraptions, so it checks out. But the weights are still labeled in pounds. I only imagine the shipping. But I'm sure they're disassemblable.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              I use a hex bar for deadlifts and a machine for squats. But even then I’m doing weights where I can do 8-10 reps.

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              @jon-nyc said in Speaking of Gyms…:

              I use a hex bar for deadlifts and a machine for squats. But even then I’m doing weights where I can do 8-10 reps.

              Hex bars are great. I love the more natural grip. But after I've trained straight bar deadlifts with a physiotherapist, I now got the technique down.

              I also do machine squats. I lack ankle mobility (but am working on that). This kind of machine is my favorite:

              6f6c55b7-75a8-4baa-a4b8-f5dda9afcecf-image.png

              When I do squats, I do superset them with calve raises (which in turn double as ankle mobility stretches) on the same machine with the same weight. Very efficient training.

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              • HoraceH Online
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                Arsenal, I see a lot of that in my gym.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @Klaus said in Speaking of Gyms…:

                  Benching 100kg is a much nicer smaller number than benching 225.

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                  @jon-nyc said in Speaking of Gyms…:

                  @Klaus said in Speaking of Gyms…:

                  Benching 100kg is a much nicer smaller number than benching 225.

                  Thanks for the idea for a cute Bösendorfer video… I’m going to have the 145lb guy in the store “bench” a 225…

                  The Brad

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                  • KlausK Klaus

                    @jon-nyc said in Speaking of Gyms…:

                    I use a hex bar for deadlifts and a machine for squats. But even then I’m doing weights where I can do 8-10 reps.

                    Hex bars are great. I love the more natural grip. But after I've trained straight bar deadlifts with a physiotherapist, I now got the technique down.

                    I also do machine squats. I lack ankle mobility (but am working on that). This kind of machine is my favorite:

                    6f6c55b7-75a8-4baa-a4b8-f5dda9afcecf-image.png

                    When I do squats, I do superset them with calve raises (which in turn double as ankle mobility stretches) on the same machine with the same weight. Very efficient training.

                    jon-nycJ Online
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                    @Klaus

                    I use that type of machine. In fact you used it here at my gym. I didn’t at the time as I had stitches in my leg.

                    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      @Klaus said in Speaking of Gyms…:

                      Benching 100kg is a much nicer smaller number than benching 225.

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                      @jon-nyc said in Speaking of Gyms…:

                      @Klaus said in Speaking of Gyms…:

                      Benching 100kg is a much nicer smaller number than benching 225.

                      Well, 102kg vs 100kg ... 😫

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        #19

                        I like expressing my bike distances in km and my weights lifted in lbs.

                        Seems more impressive.

                        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                          I like to say something like "3 klicks down the road". Sounds so much cooler than 3km.

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                          • KlausK Klaus

                            @jon-nyc said in Speaking of Gyms…:

                            I use a hex bar for deadlifts and a machine for squats. But even then I’m doing weights where I can do 8-10 reps.

                            Hex bars are great. I love the more natural grip. But after I've trained straight bar deadlifts with a physiotherapist, I now got the technique down.

                            I also do machine squats. I lack ankle mobility (but am working on that). This kind of machine is my favorite:

                            6f6c55b7-75a8-4baa-a4b8-f5dda9afcecf-image.png

                            When I do squats, I do superset them with calve raises (which in turn double as ankle mobility stretches) on the same machine with the same weight. Very efficient training.

                            jon-nycJ Online
                            jon-nycJ Online
                            jon-nyc
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                            @Klaus said in Speaking of Gyms…:

                            When I do squats, I do superset them with calve raises (which in turn double as ankle mobility stretches) on the same machine with the same weight. Very efficient training.

                            Good idea. Especially since the calf raise machine at my gym hurts my shoulders as it isn't padded enough.

                            If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                              Yes, it's exactly the same at my gym. And the seated calf raises suck they don't train the gastrocnemius.

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                              • jon-nycJ Online
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                                #23

                                It's because we're Mr Olympias using far more weight than the padding designer envisioned.

                                If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                  Try barbell hip thrusts. I will never understand how people can do this with heavy weights, even when they add one of these standard round barbell padding things. I do hip thrusts with a machine and add a full 5x10x10in or so padding mat that distributes the load over the full hip and belly. The exhaustion is painful enough, I don't need extra pain.

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                                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                                    Yeah, we have one of those. My personal trainer would have me use it back in the day.

                                    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                      I like watching the lovely young women use it. Quite suggestive.

                                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        Yep. In my gym it’s mostly women who use it. Latinas.

                                        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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