Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era

[Horace]

That's a far cry from what chatGPT said. It did acknowledge that in certain contexts it can carry the implication of antisemitism, but that was a corner usage. Perhaps not so corner in certain places in punditry.

[jon-nyc]

Vivek chimes in.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/17/opinion/republican-identity-divide.html?unlocked_article_code=1.9U8.AV4v.kVMldQaLG0T2&smid=url-share

[Doctor Phibes]

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@jon-nyc said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:

Vivek chimes in.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/17/opinion/republican-identity-divide.html?unlocked_article_code=1.9U8.AV4v.kVMldQaLG0T2&smid=url-share

Good for him. More people need to say this stuff very clearly, and stop this growing trend toward the Fuentes-brigade.

[jon-nyc]

Megyn replied too. Putting it back here to keep the topic consolidated.

[jon-nyc]

When your conspiracy theory is too much for Alex Jones.

[jon-nyc]

Best comment on the above:

‘When your dealer says you have a drug problem’

[jon-nyc]

The ‘op’.

[jon-nyc]

Wishing it will all go away before the primary in 2027. I’m not so confident it will.

[jon-nyc]

Megyn with more opinions.

[Horace]

[jon-nyc]

Im just enjoying the scrum.

[Horace]

That's certainly fair enough.

[Horace]

I appreciated today's VDH show. He spends the first 15 minutes going over Israel's value to the US, beyond "just another foreign country". The idea that it's "just another foreign country" underpins all of Tucker's or Dave Smith's rhetoric against US support of it. If I had ever bought into that notion, I would have agreed with them, but I never did. VDH provides some details of why it's not reasonable to think of Israel as just another foreign country.

Link to video

[Horace]

Mass exodus from Heritage to a more standard conservative organization formed recently by Mike Pence.

Link to video

[jon-nyc]

As hard as it is, listen to him to the end where he says this is a message for Vance in 28.

[Doctor Phibes]

I get the odd feeling that he's missed the whole spirit of Christmas thing, despite his jolly decorations.

[Horace]

It's not as if he'll be voting for the other side anyway. He's not really a political pundit, just a cultural commentator. Those of us who aren't white nationalists can feel united in that he hates us all.

[Renauda]

@Horace

He's not really a political pundit, just a cultural commentator.

So was Julius Streicher

[Horace]

It's worth making some attempt to understand why his message resonates with certain people, young white males as I gather. I mean, some attempt that gets past "because they're all racist". We have a recent thread about a piece about what it is to be a white male trying to work in the entertainment industry that might touch on some of it.