Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era
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The above is generally a fine if standard rhetorical hit piece, but this stood out to me:
In a recent Substack post, my old friend Rod Dreher writes the following:
I was talking today with a Christian I know who is a big player in conservative politics … He tells me that what normie outsiders like me don’t know is that something like 30 to 40 percent of the Republican staff in Washington under the age of 30 are Groypers—that is, followers of Nick Fuentes.
Setting aside the pure anecdote hand wave of the stat, everybody gives themselves the grace that if they listen to a media voice, it does not make them a "follower" of that voice. But when they're engaged in tribal rhetoric, anybody in the opposite tribe whose media diet includes marginal person <x> is a follower of <x>. That is a tedious dunk.
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“In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”
- Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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@jon-nyc said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:
To be clear this isn’t just about Israel and Jews.
That well known race-obsessed leftist Dinesh D'Souza.
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White nationalist politics is a political non-starter for obvious reasons, so the dunks here should be tinged with relief that your party will 100% win if you're right about how mainstream it is.
But for now, we have a Tucker interview of a known troll, and some racist X tweets. So the next election might not be as secure as you'd hope.
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White nationalist politics is a political non-starter for obvious reasons, so the dunks here should be tinged with relief that your party will 100% win if you're right about how mainstream it is.
But for now, we have a Tucker interview of a known troll, and some racist X tweets. So the next election might not be as secure as you'd hope.
@Horace said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:
So the next election might not be as secure as you'd hope.
When have I said anything about the Democrats winning the next election? Ever?
Hell, I'm even concerned that the next British PM could be that odious faux working man-of-the-people, Farquaad Farage.
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@Horace said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:
So the next election might not be as secure as you'd hope.
When have I said anything about the Democrats winning the next election? Ever?
Hell, I'm even concerned that the next British PM could be that odious faux working man-of-the-people, Farquaad Farage.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:
@Horace said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:
So the next election might not be as secure as you'd hope.
When have I said anything about the Democrats winning the next election? Ever?
I assume you will have no spoken preference, and an unspoken preference for the D candidate. But far be it from me to violate the sanctity of your unspoken mind. One can simply never infer anything about what anybody thinks unless they say that specific thing right out loud. I mean except for racists and anti semites and all that. We can definitely infer huge amounts based on lots of different dog whistles, without ever hearing them say something out loud. Just look at how much we can infer about the future of the Republican party, based on the fact that they refuse to socially excommunicate Tucker Carlson.
Education is extremely important.
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Robby here has a take I agree with.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:
@Horace said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:
So the next election might not be as secure as you'd hope.
When have I said anything about the Democrats winning the next election? Ever?
I assume you will have no spoken preference, and an unspoken preference for the D candidate. But far be it from me to violate the sanctity of your unspoken mind. One can simply never infer anything about what anybody thinks unless they say that specific thing right out loud. I mean except for racists and anti semites and all that. We can definitely infer huge amounts based on lots of different dog whistles, without ever hearing them say something out loud. Just look at how much we can infer about the future of the Republican party, based on the fact that they refuse to socially excommunicate Tucker Carlson.
@Horace said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:
@Horace said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:
So the next election might not be as secure as you'd hope.
When have I said anything about the Democrats winning the next election? Ever?
I assume you will have no spoken preference, and an unspoken preference for the D candidate. But far be it from me to violate the sanctity of your unspoken mind.
I hate to boast, but unlike some of the posters here (particularly some who no longer post for one reason or another) I have the rare ability to distinguish between what I would like to happen and what I believe may actually happen.
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Sometimes pundits reflect broader cultural issues, and sometimes pundits are circle jerking each other for clicks. I believe this situation is the latter. The peanut gallery on the left will play their part giving it all the oxygen the performers on the right desire. This alleged blood feud between shapiro and tucker has always sniffed to me of performance art. And objectively i think it helps both their channels. And they are both aware of that.
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It's all fun and games until somebody gets shot in the head.
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Michelle Goldberg from the NYT rubs herself from her keyboard imagining Nick Fuentes becoming the face of her political opposition. Nobody would be more excited for that to happen than those who hate Republicans.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/03/opinion/nick-fuentes-kirk-successor.html
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Everybody with a functioning brain knows that white identity politics is DOA electorally. What is not clear is the notion that white identity politics had anything to do with the GOP's losses on Tuesday. The left is very motivated to pretend that Fuentes is the new leader of the right, even though he has a small fraction of the influence that Kirk did, who was completely ignored.
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Everybody with a functioning brain knows that white identity politics is DOA electorally. What is not clear is the notion that white identity politics had anything to do with the GOP's losses on Tuesday. The left is very motivated to pretend that Fuentes is the new leader of the right, even though he has a small fraction of the influence that Kirk did, who was completely ignored.
@Horace said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:
Everybody with a functioning brain knows that white identity politics is DOA electorally. What is not clear is the notion that white identity politics had anything to do with the GOP's losses on Tuesday. The left is very motivated to pretend that Fuentes is the new leader of the right, even though he has a small fraction of the influence that Kirk did, who was completely ignored.
Maybe people just don't like what the Republicans have done. They haven't exactly covered themselves in glory over the last year.
Based on his Tweets, Trump seems to think he's their greatest asset. Nobody I speak to in real life thinks that way.
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@Horace said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:
Everybody with a functioning brain knows that white identity politics is DOA electorally. What is not clear is the notion that white identity politics had anything to do with the GOP's losses on Tuesday. The left is very motivated to pretend that Fuentes is the new leader of the right, even though he has a small fraction of the influence that Kirk did, who was completely ignored.
Maybe people just don't like what the Republicans have done. They haven't exactly covered themselves in glory over the last year.
Based on his Tweets, Trump seems to think he's their greatest asset. Nobody I speak to in real life thinks that way.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:
@Horace said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:
Everybody with a functioning brain knows that white identity politics is DOA electorally. What is not clear is the notion that white identity politics had anything to do with the GOP's losses on Tuesday. The left is very motivated to pretend that Fuentes is the new leader of the right, even though he has a small fraction of the influence that Kirk did, who was completely ignored.
Maybe people just don't like what the Republicans have done. They haven't exactly covered themselves in glory over the last year.
Based on his Tweets, Trump seems to think he's their greatest asset. Nobody I speak to in real life thinks that way.
I only see that sort of thing from Truth social, which I check periodically to get clued into market crashes and other facets of our interesting times.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:
@Horace said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:
Everybody with a functioning brain knows that white identity politics is DOA electorally. What is not clear is the notion that white identity politics had anything to do with the GOP's losses on Tuesday. The left is very motivated to pretend that Fuentes is the new leader of the right, even though he has a small fraction of the influence that Kirk did, who was completely ignored.
Maybe people just don't like what the Republicans have done. They haven't exactly covered themselves in glory over the last year.
Based on his Tweets, Trump seems to think he's their greatest asset. Nobody I speak to in real life thinks that way.
I only see that sort of thing from Truth social, which I check periodically to get clued into market crashes and other facets of our interesting times.
@Horace said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:
I only see that sort of thing from Truth social
Well, Trump generally thinks he's the greatest human to walk the earth since Jesus Christ, so it kind of goes without saying that he thinks he's an asset rather than an asshat.
