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Our friends the Russians

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    #3

    It's nice to not believe there are any fascinating secrets out there. About anything of any particular importance. Maybe some personal dirt about some famous person that would be interesting to know. That's where the world's secrets top out, I believe.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
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      #4

      Nothing new. This has been anticipated since the end of July.

      https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5405753-kgb-files-revealed-kennedy-assassination/amp/

      Russians just needed some time to finesse the files to ensure total Soviet innocence indifference and that the CIA along with certain US politicians and US interest groups were sufficiently implicated to ensure the desirable conspiratorial value.

      The time is right too, anything to mollify and distract Trump and his knuckle headed minions from ongoing Kremlin mischief.

      Elbows up!

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        jon-nyc
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        #5

        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          #6

          Yes historic. I don’t think a sitting congressperson has so openly channeled Kremlin propaganda before. In before times Soviet spies tried to conceal their work.

          IMG_8331.jpeg

          If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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          • MikM Offline
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            #7

            She misspelled hysterical.

            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            • HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
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              #8

              Russian propaganda squeezed into fan service for whatever boomers are still emotionally invested in the JFK assassination. I'm struggling to worry about the disinformation campaign.

              Education is extremely important.

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                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                • MikM Offline
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                  I knew that would become true some day.

                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    Russian propaganda squeezed into fan service for whatever boomers are still emotionally invested in the JFK assassination. I'm struggling to worry about the disinformation campaign.

                    jon-nycJ Offline
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                    #11

                    @Horace said in Our friends the Russians:

                    Russian propaganda squeezed into fan service for whatever boomers are still emotionally invested in the JFK assassination.

                    Probably a majority of FoxNews viewers fit that description.

                    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      @Horace said in Our friends the Russians:

                      Russian propaganda squeezed into fan service for whatever boomers are still emotionally invested in the JFK assassination.

                      Probably a majority of FoxNews viewers fit that description.

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                      #12

                      @jon-nyc said in Our friends the Russians:

                      @Horace said in Our friends the Russians:

                      Russian propaganda squeezed into fan service for whatever boomers are still emotionally invested in the JFK assassination.

                      Probably a majority of FoxNews viewers fit that description.

                      I'm sure you'll lose a lot of respect for them over this, now that Russia will gain control over their very minds.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote last edited by Doctor Phibes
                        #13

                        I'm sure that having a member of Congress seemingly bought and paid for by Putin is nothing at all to worry about as long as she doesn't talk about anything important.

                        I was only joking

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                        • HoraceH Offline
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                          Horace
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                          #14

                          The notion that Russia owns the US via Maga is probably the silliest drumbeat on this forum. But I know it's fun to say, so carry on.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • jon-nycJ Offline
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                            I think your strawmanning is sillier. But maybe that’s just me.

                            If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              I think your strawmanning is sillier. But maybe that’s just me.

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                              @jon-nyc said in Our friends the Russians:

                              I think your strawmanning is sillier. But maybe that’s just me.

                              Any change of a single word in your magical strings of words that capture exactly the magic that you're thinking, is a strawman, as we all know. If your magical strings of words happen to convince anybody of the alleged strawman, well, that's not your fault, it's just their own misinterpretation. They are free to interpret your magic words that way, but pushing back on those interpretations is just intellectually dishonest strawmanning. I get the program, it's been the same for a very, very long time.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                jon-nyc
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                                #17

                                That’s one interpretation. Speaking of silly drumbeats.

                                If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                • HoraceH Offline
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                                  Horace
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                                  #18

                                  My favorite recent example was when I addressed your claim that Trump was "effectively declaring war on American cities". I referred to the claim twice, only the second time omitting the word "effectively". You immediately pounced on my strawmanning of your claim. There have been 100s of such examples, if not 1000s.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    The notion that Russia owns the US via Maga is probably the silliest drumbeat on this forum. But I know it's fun to say, so carry on.

                                    Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                    @Horace said in Our friends the Russians:

                                    The notion that Russia owns the US via Maga is probably the silliest drumbeat on this forum. But I know it's fun to say, so carry on.

                                    If I remember correctly, and I'm pretty sure I do, you're the guy who said that Tucker Carlson was good people. And that motherfucker ended up advertising Russian grocery stores.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      @Horace said in Our friends the Russians:

                                      The notion that Russia owns the US via Maga is probably the silliest drumbeat on this forum. But I know it's fun to say, so carry on.

                                      If I remember correctly, and I'm pretty sure I do, you're the guy who said that Tucker Carlson was good people. And that motherfucker ended up advertising Russian grocery stores.

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                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Our friends the Russians:

                                      @Horace said in Our friends the Russians:

                                      The notion that Russia owns the US via Maga is probably the silliest drumbeat on this forum. But I know it's fun to say, so carry on.

                                      If I remember correctly, and I'm pretty sure I do, you're the guy who said that Tucker Carlson was good people. And that motherfucker ended up advertising Russian grocery stores.

                                      I don't mind that he went to Russia, but many of his other recent talking points have been crazy. I would no longer feel like saying anything generally positive about him, if his recent output was all I knew. At the time I said that, it's what I felt. I guess I could take the safer tack of never saying anything positive about anybody, but then I would betray a fear of being dunked on in this insipid manner that unfortunately pervades this forum, where everybody takes personal responsibility for the actions and opinions of any public figure they've ever supported. Dunkaholics anonymous.

                                      I think it's ok to develop new opinions over time, based on new information. I actually appreciate it when people do so, as long as I trust their motivations.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Our friends the Russians:

                                        @Horace said in Our friends the Russians:

                                        The notion that Russia owns the US via Maga is probably the silliest drumbeat on this forum. But I know it's fun to say, so carry on.

                                        If I remember correctly, and I'm pretty sure I do, you're the guy who said that Tucker Carlson was good people. And that motherfucker ended up advertising Russian grocery stores.

                                        I don't mind that he went to Russia, but many of his other recent talking points have been crazy. I would no longer feel like saying anything generally positive about him, if his recent output was all I knew. At the time I said that, it's what I felt. I guess I could take the safer tack of never saying anything positive about anybody, but then I would betray a fear of being dunked on in this insipid manner that unfortunately pervades this forum, where everybody takes personal responsibility for the actions and opinions of any public figure they've ever supported. Dunkaholics anonymous.

                                        I think it's ok to develop new opinions over time, based on new information. I actually appreciate it when people do so, as long as I trust their motivations.

                                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        @Horace said in Our friends the Russians:

                                        I think it's ok to develop new opinions over time, based on new information. I actually appreciate it when people do so, as long as I trust their motivations.

                                        Maybe we'll both have the opportunity to develop some new opinions about the lovely Ms. Luna in the fullness of time.

                                        I was only joking

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