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Our friends the Russians

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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote last edited by Renauda
    #4

    Nothing new. This has been anticipated since the end of July.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5405753-kgb-files-revealed-kennedy-assassination/amp/

    Russians just needed some time to finesse the files to ensure total Soviet innocence indifference and that the CIA along with certain US politicians and US interest groups were sufficiently implicated to ensure the desirable conspiratorial value.

    The time is right too, anything to mollify and distract Trump and his knuckle headed minions from ongoing Kremlin mischief.

    Elbows up!

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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      #5

      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        jon-nyc
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        #6

        Yes historic. I don’t think a sitting congressperson has so openly channeled Kremlin propaganda before. In before times Soviet spies tried to conceal their work.

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        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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        • MikM Away
          MikM Away
          Mik
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          #7

          She misspelled hysterical.

          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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          • HoraceH Offline
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            Horace
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            #8

            Russian propaganda squeezed into fan service for whatever boomers are still emotionally invested in the JFK assassination. I'm struggling to worry about the disinformation campaign.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • MikM Away
              MikM Away
              Mik
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              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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              • MikM Away
                MikM Away
                Mik
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                #10

                I knew that would become true some day.

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  Russian propaganda squeezed into fan service for whatever boomers are still emotionally invested in the JFK assassination. I'm struggling to worry about the disinformation campaign.

                  jon-nycJ Online
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                  wrote last edited by jon-nyc
                  #11

                  @Horace said in Our friends the Russians:

                  Russian propaganda squeezed into fan service for whatever boomers are still emotionally invested in the JFK assassination.

                  Probably a majority of FoxNews viewers fit that description.

                  If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    @Horace said in Our friends the Russians:

                    Russian propaganda squeezed into fan service for whatever boomers are still emotionally invested in the JFK assassination.

                    Probably a majority of FoxNews viewers fit that description.

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                    @jon-nyc said in Our friends the Russians:

                    @Horace said in Our friends the Russians:

                    Russian propaganda squeezed into fan service for whatever boomers are still emotionally invested in the JFK assassination.

                    Probably a majority of FoxNews viewers fit that description.

                    I'm sure you'll lose a lot of respect for them over this, now that Russia will gain control over their very minds.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote last edited by Doctor Phibes
                      #13

                      I'm sure that having a member of Congress seemingly bought and paid for by Putin is nothing at all to worry about as long as she doesn't talk about anything important.

                      I was only joking

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                      • HoraceH Offline
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                        Horace
                        wrote last edited by
                        #14

                        The notion that Russia owns the US via Maga is probably the silliest drumbeat on this forum. But I know it's fun to say, so carry on.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                          jon-nyc
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                          #15

                          I think your strawmanning is sillier. But maybe that’s just me.

                          If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            I think your strawmanning is sillier. But maybe that’s just me.

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                            @jon-nyc said in Our friends the Russians:

                            I think your strawmanning is sillier. But maybe that’s just me.

                            Any change of a single word in your magical strings of words that capture exactly the magic that you're thinking, is a strawman, as we all know. If your magical strings of words happen to convince anybody of the alleged strawman, well, that's not your fault, it's just their own misinterpretation. They are free to interpret your magic words that way, but pushing back on those interpretations is just intellectually dishonest strawmanning. I get the program, it's been the same for a very, very long time.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • jon-nycJ Online
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                              jon-nyc
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                              That’s one interpretation. Speaking of silly drumbeats.

                              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                              • HoraceH Offline
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                                #18

                                My favorite recent example was when I addressed your claim that Trump was "effectively declaring war on American cities". I referred to the claim twice, only the second time omitting the word "effectively". You immediately pounced on my strawmanning of your claim. There have been 100s of such examples, if not 1000s.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  The notion that Russia owns the US via Maga is probably the silliest drumbeat on this forum. But I know it's fun to say, so carry on.

                                  Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                  Doctor Phibes
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                                  @Horace said in Our friends the Russians:

                                  The notion that Russia owns the US via Maga is probably the silliest drumbeat on this forum. But I know it's fun to say, so carry on.

                                  If I remember correctly, and I'm pretty sure I do, you're the guy who said that Tucker Carlson was good people. And that motherfucker ended up advertising Russian grocery stores.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    @Horace said in Our friends the Russians:

                                    The notion that Russia owns the US via Maga is probably the silliest drumbeat on this forum. But I know it's fun to say, so carry on.

                                    If I remember correctly, and I'm pretty sure I do, you're the guy who said that Tucker Carlson was good people. And that motherfucker ended up advertising Russian grocery stores.

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                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Our friends the Russians:

                                    @Horace said in Our friends the Russians:

                                    The notion that Russia owns the US via Maga is probably the silliest drumbeat on this forum. But I know it's fun to say, so carry on.

                                    If I remember correctly, and I'm pretty sure I do, you're the guy who said that Tucker Carlson was good people. And that motherfucker ended up advertising Russian grocery stores.

                                    I don't mind that he went to Russia, but many of his other recent talking points have been crazy. I would no longer feel like saying anything generally positive about him, if his recent output was all I knew. At the time I said that, it's what I felt. I guess I could take the safer tack of never saying anything positive about anybody, but then I would betray a fear of being dunked on in this insipid manner that unfortunately pervades this forum, where everybody takes personal responsibility for the actions and opinions of any public figure they've ever supported. Dunkaholics anonymous.

                                    I think it's ok to develop new opinions over time, based on new information. I actually appreciate it when people do so, as long as I trust their motivations.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Our friends the Russians:

                                      @Horace said in Our friends the Russians:

                                      The notion that Russia owns the US via Maga is probably the silliest drumbeat on this forum. But I know it's fun to say, so carry on.

                                      If I remember correctly, and I'm pretty sure I do, you're the guy who said that Tucker Carlson was good people. And that motherfucker ended up advertising Russian grocery stores.

                                      I don't mind that he went to Russia, but many of his other recent talking points have been crazy. I would no longer feel like saying anything generally positive about him, if his recent output was all I knew. At the time I said that, it's what I felt. I guess I could take the safer tack of never saying anything positive about anybody, but then I would betray a fear of being dunked on in this insipid manner that unfortunately pervades this forum, where everybody takes personal responsibility for the actions and opinions of any public figure they've ever supported. Dunkaholics anonymous.

                                      I think it's ok to develop new opinions over time, based on new information. I actually appreciate it when people do so, as long as I trust their motivations.

                                      Doctor PhibesD Online
                                      Doctor PhibesD Online
                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      @Horace said in Our friends the Russians:

                                      I think it's ok to develop new opinions over time, based on new information. I actually appreciate it when people do so, as long as I trust their motivations.

                                      Maybe we'll both have the opportunity to develop some new opinions about the lovely Ms. Luna in the fullness of time.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #22

                                        I think if Reagan came back to life tomorrow the tariffs might well be the least concerning aspect of the totally unrecognizable GOP.

                                        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                        • HoraceH Offline
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                                          Reagan might not have the tribal biases running through his head that would be triggered into imaginations of scandalous foreign interference, after seeing a probably meaningless publicity photo of some random diplomatic handshake.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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