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AI and partisan politics

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
    #1

    AI still hasn’t gained a foothold in partisan politics. You see some nervousness about jobs, deep fakes, etc on left and right, but it still seems in the background politically.

    Seems like this can’t last much longer. Maybe some newsworthy event will bring it to the forefront, whether that’s a model leagues more powerful than any before it, or some high profile layoffs directly associated with an AI implementation. Or maybe progress with manipulating atoms not just bits. Whatever it is we’ll see it before 28 I suspect.

    Thoughts?

    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      Trump’s been pretty pro-AI as a basis for domestic economic growth, and not received any pushback politically. I think it’s one of those things that everyone recognizes as inevitable, recognizes job losses as being inevitable, but also realize the tremendous opportunities that it could provide. Ultimately, though, it’s a security issue. The US can be at the forefront, or China takes the lead, and ultimately pushes the US into irrelevance.

      It’s the new space race, even if we are concerned about winning.

      The Brad

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        #3

        I agree with everything you wrote and I still think it will come to the forefront of politics in a couple years at most.

        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
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          #4

          Stopping technology has never been a popular position, and I don't expect either party to adopt any such position.

          There will be political issues around special taxes on AI productivity, I guess.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
            #5

            In the past technology generally threatened workers in one industry while providing benefits to everyone else. I’m not sure we’ve had a single technology that threatened so many jobs across so many industries before.

            Also it’s not clear to me that the average Joe sees its benefits.

            So I can imagine a broader resistance to it than we’ve seen in the past.

            If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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              wrote last edited by jon-nyc
              #6

              Today’s Odd Lots podcast (a Bloomberg daily podcast about markets) is called ‘The Politics of AI are about to Explode’. Worth a listen.

              They talk about left v right but also intra-right tension between what their guest metaphorically calls ‘the two Ps - populism and Peter Thiel’. Though by the latter he’s really referring to the ‘tech right’ what with Elon being a huge donor, etc.

              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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              • MikM Offline
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                #7

                I'm glad I don't have to work anymore. But I am trying to incorporate AI as much as possible and encourage my daughter to do the same, to get ahead of eth curve on AI in project management.

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                  Same. About a year ago I was like "no way..." now it's the default I use for quick things. In the last day I've used it for:

                  • How much oil does my (specific model) snowblower need when I change the oil [did that yesterday]
                  • Create a blog title graphic (picture) using Gemini for a post I needed to publish for a corporate thing
                  • What is the best splunk query (in SPL) to do X, Y, and Z...
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                  • AxtremusA Offline
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                    I find that I usually go with AI when I ask/Google a “how to” question or want a broad overview of something.
                    I often disable AI (using “-ai” in my Google queries) when I want to lookup specific information.

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      #10

                      The distillation of the information is wonderful.

                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                      • MikM Mik

                        The distillation of the information is wonderful.

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                        @Mik said in AI and partisan politics:

                        The distillation of the information is wonderful.

                        No question. Instead of going to 25 sites for comparisons on insurance, one can specify the type of information required, places to include in the search, criteria for review, etc - and instead of one having to search myriad sites, it's there in seconds - in graph form if so requested.

                        My stereo and audio storage installation - connecting devices from multiple vendors with different interfaces - a nightmare that would have taken forever to sort through - was relatively easy with the help of AI.

                        It's perhaps even more transformative than the introduction of the PC, the internet, and social media.

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          Yes

                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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