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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    ~~So how well did the UN’s approach of calling Putin a War Criminal and a monster in countless proclamations work in getting Putin to the table? ~~

    So your answer is 0 holiday, but you reserve the right to still use it as a pointless argument because it might someday win you points. Got it.

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    @LuFins-Dad said in Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is….:

    ~~So how well did the UN’s approach of calling Putin a War Criminal and a monster in countless proclamations work in getting Putin to the table?….

    Got it.

    That was not the point of the ICC indictment. Putin has never come to the table. The Alaska summit was a farce with tragic consequence.

    Putin has no intention to negotiate anything less than the unconditional surrender of Ukraine. Get it?

    Elbows up!

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      The Trump nominations weren’t related to the newest Israel/Palestinian Peace Deal. They were based on ending the India/Pakistan conflict, The Congo and Rwanda Settlement, The Cambodia/Thailand Ceasefire, the Armenia/Azerbaijan settlement, and the earlier temporary ceasefire in Gaza.

      So kindly let me know who has accomplished more this year, and that’s excluding the current peace plan in Gaza…

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      @LuFins-Dad said in Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is….:

      The Trump nominations weren’t related to the newest Israel/Palestinian Peace Deal. They were based on ending the India/Pakistan conflict, The Congo and Rwanda Settlement, The Cambodia/Thailand Ceasefire, the Armenia/Azerbaijan settlement, and the earlier temporary ceasefire in Gaza.

      So kindly let me know who has accomplished more this year, and that’s excluding the current peace plan in Gaza…

      As I said in another thread

      Has his foreign policy made the world a safer place?

      MIddle East/Israel - I am not sure what has changed that will carry on for years.

      India/Pakistan - India is moving much closer to China. Also, it can be an arguement that things with Pakistan and India did not really "flare up" until President Trump was in office. Nothing has really changed there. India and Pakistan have been "at odds" with various firing at each other for decades.

      Ukraine/Russia - still waiting for that 24 hour time limit to start to bring peace there.

      China relations/DPRK - relations with China continue to be downward, though that is actually a continuing from President Biden's time. I would say that DPRK is probably more powerful now than they were a year ago.

      Thailand/Cambodia - I think that President Trump had something to do with the ceasefire, but the overall situation is really unchanged, other than the PM of Thailand has been removed and replaced.

      Africa - dont know much about it Revisit in a year. (The biggest fighting group in Rwanda/Congo says that the agreement signed does not apply to them.)

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        Africa is getting peacefully quiet now that about a million folks have died due to the abrupt US AID withdrawal. Plus there is peaceful DC thanks to the machine guns and mine resistant vehicles.

        You wonder if folks remember this is about promoting fraternity between nations and reduction of armies... The Sudanese ERR is really a remarkable story and model for the world, although I'd argue they are a bit more on the humanitarian side than the "promotion of peace" side: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Response_Rooms

        All of that being said, I could see it being Trump. Indeed the US has brokered a number of initial agreements between conflicting nations. While one could argue that the agreements were coerced from a heavy, threatening, tariff-loving, orange hand, it nonetheless has occurred and is a good argument for Trump being awarded the prize for peace, his "I'll end the Ukraine war in one day" epic failure and his "shoot priests with rubber bullets from the roof in Portland" notwithstanding, of course.

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          I have it on good authority that it was a minister who they shot, not a priest.

          Hater.

          If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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            If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                #38

                Trump is at 3% on polymarket. (Machado, for those unfamiliar, is the opposition leader in Venezuela)

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                If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                  Venezuelan politician Maria Corina Machado wins Nobel Peace Prize

                  What did the bookmakers say? Long shot? How much would I have made betting on her….

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                    You buried the lede, Bach.

                    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      I put the word ‘effectively’ in there lest someone thinks the Congress who’s afraid to be in session lest they pass a discharge petition on the Epstein files actually issued a declaration of war.

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                      said in Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is….:

                      I put the word ‘effectively’ in there lest someone thinks the Congress who’s afraid to be in session lest they pass a discharge petition on the Epstein files …...

                      I just read the Johnson has had the House in session exactly 14 days since July 25th.

                      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                        I'm guessing Trump will claim the voting was rigged.

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                          I hope he is truly saddened when he finds out. I hope it reopens all the wounds he has about never being accepted by the cool kids.

                          If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                            Oh yeah, so cool.

                            The Brad

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                              I’ve been thinking about next year. I think his best shot is to start a whole bunch of little wars. Push the world to the brink of WW3, then step in at the very point of no return and stop the war. That should get him the recognition that he so richly deserves…

                              The Brad

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                                I hope he is truly saddened when he finds out. I hope it reopens all the wounds he has about never being accepted by the cool kids.

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                                @jon-nyc said in Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is….:

                                I hope he is truly saddened when he finds out. I hope it reopens all the wounds he has about never being accepted by the cool kids.

                                He could still win the Economics Nobel for his innovations involving tariffs.

                                I was only joking

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                                • MikM Away
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                                  NPR said he's already complained that they put politics ahead of peace by not choosing him. Wanker.

                                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    Oh yeah, so cool.

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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is….:

                                    Oh yeah, so cool.

                                    Jen Rubin and Keith Olbermann are my favorite cool kids.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      I’ve been thinking about next year. I think his best shot is to start a whole bunch of little wars. Push the world to the brink of WW3, then step in at the very point of no return and stop the war. That should get him the recognition that he so richly deserves…

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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is….:

                                      I’ve been thinking about next year. I think his best shot is to start a whole bunch of little wars. Push the world to the brink of WW3, then step in at the very point of no return and stop the war. That should get him the recognition that he so richly deserves…

                                      I think most people already recognize him as a sociopath.

                                      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is….:

                                        Oh yeah, so cool.

                                        Jen Rubin and Keith Olbermann are my favorite cool kids.

                                        jon-nycJ Online
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                                        @Horace said in Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is….:

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is….:

                                        Oh yeah, so cool.

                                        Jen Rubin and Keith Olbermann are my favorite cool kids.

                                        I find them to be useless midwits. But I have the problem where I only see their work when it goes viral and that’s usually when they’re at their worst.

                                        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          @Horace said in Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is….:

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is….:

                                          Oh yeah, so cool.

                                          Jen Rubin and Keith Olbermann are my favorite cool kids.

                                          I find them to be useless midwits. But I have the problem where I only see their work when it goes viral and that’s usually when they’re at their worst.

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                                          @jon-nyc said in Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is….:

                                          @Horace said in Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is….:

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is….:

                                          Oh yeah, so cool.

                                          Jen Rubin and Keith Olbermann are my favorite cool kids.

                                          I find them to be useless midwits. But I have the problem where I only see their work when it goes viral and that’s usually when they’re at their worst.

                                          I bet you didn't see Olbermann's take on Kirk's assassin. That the motivation wasn't political, but rather, strictly personal, because Kirk said mean things about trans people, and the assassin's significant other was trans.

                                          It probably didn't go viral, because that's his normal content, not extreme. Though I guess it went viral enough that I saw it. I just assume it didn't pop up in your x feed.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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