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14 months' work at the gym and the dinner table

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  • Doctor PhibesD Online
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    Doctor Phibes
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    #65

    I have one of these bad boys in the basement.
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    Actually, despite it's simplicity, it's surprising what a difference it's made to my core. The first time I used it, I was in pain for about 5 days.

    I was only joking

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    • KlausK Offline
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      Klaus
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      #66

      Oh yeah, I also got an ab roller at home. This is probably the best "bang for the buck" equipment there is. Fantastic exercise.

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      • MikM Away
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        Mik
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        #67

        Good recommendation. I'll probably get one once the basement is done. The guys have been working on it the past week and a half.

        @kluurs: Yeah, I'm very careful and slow with the lower back and torso twist, anything that torques the spine. I do not do them to near failure, and I wince when I see people doing them too fast. Also I don't max out on shoulders. Seen too many friends need replacements.

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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          #68

          As Peter Attia says ‘all my shoulder work is below the shoulder’. At our age we need to be careful.

          I was talking to my shoulder guy once and said ‘I read that something like 80% of men have torn rotator cuffs by their 80th birthday even if they never had an acute injury.’ He said ‘probably more like 100%’. He was exaggerating for effect but I get his point.

          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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          • MikM Away
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            Mik
            wrote last edited by Mik
            #69

            I think the key there is to keep it strong but not make violent moves as in sports. Just like on the lower back machines I see people doing it really explosively and fast. Dumb. All these machines are designed for a relatively slow and controlled movement.

            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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              #70

              I have a recent accomplishment to brag about.

              I recently got my VO2 max into the ‘Above Average’ range on Apple Watch’s estimate. For a typical guy my age with my exercise habits it would be expected I suppose but Im a transplant patient with chronic hemolytic anemia (due to my other obscure genetic enzyme deficiency).

              Given that VO2 max is a product of cardiac output and arterial oxygen content and the former is affected by transplant physiology and the latter is capped for me it’s something of a big deal.

              The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                jon-nyc
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                #71

                Gemeni amd Grok both told me that post lung transplant VO2 max is typically in the 40-60% of age adjusted expected value range, and that’s without the anemia. I’m now >100%.

                The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                  #72

                  Jon - that's really great. My VO2 has declined precipitously over the past 2 years. It's expected to decline slightly every year - but I've lost about 30% - still good - but not like it was.

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                  • MikM Away
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                    Mik
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                    #73

                    That's incredible and a testament to your dedication.

                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                    • kluursK kluurs

                      Jon - that's really great. My VO2 has declined precipitously over the past 2 years. It's expected to decline slightly every year - but I've lost about 30% - still good - but not like it was.

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                      jon-nyc
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                      #74

                      Here’s the range for above average by age range. My score the last month has been between 34-35. I’m 57.

                      IMG_9205.png

                      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                      • kluursK kluurs

                        Jon - that's really great. My VO2 has declined precipitously over the past 2 years. It's expected to decline slightly every year - but I've lost about 30% - still good - but not like it was.

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                        #75

                        @kluurs

                        How do you measure yours? A wearable or something more formal?

                        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @kluurs

                          How do you measure yours? A wearable or something more formal?

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                          #76

                          @jon-nyc said in 14 months' work at the gym and the dinner table:

                          @kluurs

                          How do you measure yours? A wearable or something more formal?

                          I'm using the Apple watch's value. One expects to lose 1-2% per year. I've gone from 50 to 34.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote last edited by jon-nyc
                            #77

                            For your age you’re still rocking it.

                            But I can see why a quick drop like that would be disconcerting.

                            The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                              kluurs
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                              #78

                              I can feel it with my running - big time.

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                              • MikM Away
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                                Mik
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                                #79

                                I should probably get tested.

                                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #80

                                  You should just buy an Apple Watch. That way you can keep testing it whenever you want for less than the price of a single professional test. It’s not as accurate as a lab setup obviously but what matters is tracking your progress. It records an estimate every time you do a decent outdoor walk or (so I hear) a run. It doesn’t do an estimate for stationary exercise.

                                  The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    Gemeni amd Grok both told me that post lung transplant VO2 max is typically in the 40-60% of age adjusted expected value range, and that’s without the anemia. I’m now >100%.

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                                    #81

                                    @jon-nyc said in 14 months' work at the gym and the dinner table:

                                    Gemeni amd Grok both told me that post lung transplant VO2 max is typically in the 40-60% of age adjusted expected value range, and that’s without the anemia. I’m now >100%.

                                    That's really great! I assume that's mainly from cycling?

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      #82

                                      It’s hard to say. I haven’t been doing much cycling in the past 6 weeks but it’s gone up in that time. I bought an indoor trainer for my basement but haven’t used it much due to the awkward placement. I just got rid of that large extraneous bed in my basement which will allow me to put it in a good place and use it more.

                                      What’s new for me in the last six weeks or so is daily treadmill time.

                                      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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