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14 months' work at the gym and the dinner table

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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    #62

    Or whales.

    I was only joking

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    • MikM Offline
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      For you, maybe.

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        #64

        Mik - impressive. I do almost all of that but break it out over multiple days. For the past decade or so, I've avoided a 1 rep max lift. Torso twists come as part of my Pilates workouts - but that and deadlifts I have to be careful with - dangerous for me given my back issues.

        I did pick up a new piece of equipment - a pec fly machine. I've been using dumbbells for flys- but the machine provides tension over the full range of motion. Here's most of the equipment we have in our gym. Missing photos include a spin bike, preacher curl bench, and rower.

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          I have one of these bad boys in the basement.
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          Actually, despite it's simplicity, it's surprising what a difference it's made to my core. The first time I used it, I was in pain for about 5 days.

          I was only joking

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            Oh yeah, I also got an ab roller at home. This is probably the best "bang for the buck" equipment there is. Fantastic exercise.

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            • MikM Offline
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              Good recommendation. I'll probably get one once the basement is done. The guys have been working on it the past week and a half.

              @kluurs: Yeah, I'm very careful and slow with the lower back and torso twist, anything that torques the spine. I do not do them to near failure, and I wince when I see people doing them too fast. Also I don't max out on shoulders. Seen too many friends need replacements.

              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                As Peter Attia says ‘all my shoulder work is below the shoulder’. At our age we need to be careful.

                I was talking to my shoulder guy once and said ‘I read that something like 80% of men have torn rotator cuffs by their 80th birthday even if they never had an acute injury.’ He said ‘probably more like 100%’. He was exaggerating for effect but I get his point.

                The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                • MikM Offline
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                  #69

                  I think the key there is to keep it strong but not make violent moves as in sports. Just like on the lower back machines I see people doing it really explosively and fast. Dumb. All these machines are designed for a relatively slow and controlled movement.

                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                    #70

                    I have a recent accomplishment to brag about.

                    I recently got my VO2 max into the ‘Above Average’ range on Apple Watch’s estimate. For a typical guy my age with my exercise habits it would be expected I suppose but Im a transplant patient with chronic hemolytic anemia (due to my other obscure genetic enzyme deficiency).

                    Given that VO2 max is a product of cardiac output and arterial oxygen content and the former is affected by transplant physiology and the latter is capped for me it’s something of a big deal.

                    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                      #71

                      Gemeni amd Grok both told me that post lung transplant VO2 max is typically in the 40-60% of age adjusted expected value range, and that’s without the anemia. I’m now >100%.

                      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                        Jon - that's really great. My VO2 has declined precipitously over the past 2 years. It's expected to decline slightly every year - but I've lost about 30% - still good - but not like it was.

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                          That's incredible and a testament to your dedication.

                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                            Jon - that's really great. My VO2 has declined precipitously over the past 2 years. It's expected to decline slightly every year - but I've lost about 30% - still good - but not like it was.

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                            #74

                            Here’s the range for above average by age range. My score the last month has been between 34-35. I’m 57.

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                            The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                            • kluursK kluurs

                              Jon - that's really great. My VO2 has declined precipitously over the past 2 years. It's expected to decline slightly every year - but I've lost about 30% - still good - but not like it was.

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                              @kluurs

                              How do you measure yours? A wearable or something more formal?

                              The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                @kluurs

                                How do you measure yours? A wearable or something more formal?

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                                @jon-nyc said in 14 months' work at the gym and the dinner table:

                                @kluurs

                                How do you measure yours? A wearable or something more formal?

                                I'm using the Apple watch's value. One expects to lose 1-2% per year. I've gone from 50 to 34.

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                                  #77

                                  For your age you’re still rocking it.

                                  But I can see why a quick drop like that would be disconcerting.

                                  The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                    I can feel it with my running - big time.

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                                    • MikM Offline
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                                      I should probably get tested.

                                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                        You should just buy an Apple Watch. That way you can keep testing it whenever you want for less than the price of a single professional test. It’s not as accurate as a lab setup obviously but what matters is tracking your progress. It records an estimate every time you do a decent outdoor walk or (so I hear) a run. It doesn’t do an estimate for stationary exercise.

                                        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          Gemeni amd Grok both told me that post lung transplant VO2 max is typically in the 40-60% of age adjusted expected value range, and that’s without the anemia. I’m now >100%.

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                                          @jon-nyc said in 14 months' work at the gym and the dinner table:

                                          Gemeni amd Grok both told me that post lung transplant VO2 max is typically in the 40-60% of age adjusted expected value range, and that’s without the anemia. I’m now >100%.

                                          That's really great! I assume that's mainly from cycling?

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