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    Jolly
    wrote on 20 Sept 2020, 01:16 last edited by
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    Well, supposedly Trump talked to Mitch. It's looking like Barrett or Lagoa...

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 20 Sept 2020, 01:56 last edited by
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      Seemed like he wanted to pick Barrett last time then remembered RBG would probably die on his watch so he put her aside.

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 20 Sept 2020, 10:50 last edited by
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        Nice little roundup here.

        2016, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas): “It has been 80 years since a Supreme Court vacancy was nominated and confirmed in an election year. There is a long tradition that you don’t do this in an election year.”
        2018, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.): “If an opening comes in the last year of President Trump’s term, and the primary process has started, we’ll wait to the next election.”
        2016, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.): “I don’t think we should be moving on a nominee in the last year of this president’s term - I would say that if it was a Republican president.”
        2016, Sen. David Perdue (R-Ga.): “The very balance of our nation’s highest court is in serious jeopardy. As a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, I will do everything in my power to encourage the president and Senate leadership not to start this process until we hear from the American people.”
        2016, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa): “A lifetime appointment that could dramatically impact individual freedoms and change the direction of the court for at least a generation is too important to get bogged down in politics. The American people shouldn’t be denied a voice.”
        2016, Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.): “The campaign is already under way. It is essential to the institution of the Senate and to the very health of our republic to not launch our nation into a partisan, divisive confirmation battle during the very same time the American people are casting their ballots to elect our next president.”
        2016, Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.): “In this election year, the American people will have an opportunity to have their say in the future direction of our country. For this reason, I believe the vacancy left open by Justice Antonin Scalia should not be filled until there is a new president.”
        2016, Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.): “The Senate should not confirm a new Supreme Court justice until we have a new president.”
        2016, Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Col.): “I think we’re too close to the election. The president who is elected in November should be the one who makes this decision.”
        2016, Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio): “I believe the best thing for the country is to trust the American people to weigh in on who should make a lifetime appointment that could reshape the Supreme Court for generations. This wouldn’t be unusual. It is common practice for the Senate to stop acting on lifetime appointments during the last year of a presidential term, and it’s been nearly 80 years since any president was permitted to immediately fill a vacancy that arose in a presidential election year.”
        2016, Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.): “I strongly agree that the American people should decide the future direction of the Supreme Court by their votes for president and the majority party in the U.S. Senate.”
        “The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president.”
        Mitch McConnell, March 2016

        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 20 Sept 2020, 11:14 last edited by
          #73

          More sound and fury signifying nothing.

          The Brad

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 20 Sept 2020, 11:20 last edited by
            #74

            True, we all knew they were lying at the time. It’s just kind of funny to rub their noses in it.

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 20 Sept 2020, 11:31 last edited by
              #75

              Ever since The Lying of the Senate invented borking and Dingy Harry changed the rules, it's dog eat dog.

              Play by the rules and play to win.

              Everything else doesn't matter much.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • J jon-nyc
                20 Sept 2020, 11:20

                True, we all knew they were lying at the time. It’s just kind of funny to rub their noses in it.

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                Loki
                wrote on 20 Sept 2020, 11:34 last edited by
                #76

                @jon-nyc said in RBG has passed away:

                True, we all knew they were lying at the time. It’s just kind of funny to rub their noses in it.

                Here is how Biden feels about packing the court, in case it ever comes up again, say Sept 29...

                https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/15/joe-biden-dismisses-supreme-court-packing-debate/

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 20 Sept 2020, 11:49 last edited by
                  #77

                  Yep. As I’ve said for months now, this would be the real cost of pushing through a candidate in a lame duck session.

                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  • J jon-nyc
                    20 Sept 2020, 11:20

                    True, we all knew they were lying at the time. It’s just kind of funny to rub their noses in it.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 20 Sept 2020, 11:52 last edited by
                    #78

                    @jon-nyc said in RBG has passed away:

                    kind of funny to rub their noses in it.

                    Isn't it though....

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • G George K
                      19 Sept 2020, 00:32

                      I agree. Romney's a definite "no," and Collins, currently trailing in ME, is probably a "no" as well.

                      Alexander? I dunno.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 20 Sept 2020, 23:25 last edited by
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                      @George-K said in RBG has passed away:

                      Alexander? I dunno.

                      https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronsonstocking/2020/09/20/heres-what-sen-lamar-alexander-said-about-trumps-scotus-vacancy-n2576546

                      "No one should be surprised that a Republican Senate majority would vote on a Republican President’s Supreme Court nomination, even during a presidential election year. The Constitution gives senators the power to do it," Sen. Alexander said in a statement.

                      "The voters who elected them expect it. Going back to George Washington, the Senate has confirmed many nominees to the Supreme Court during a presidential election year," Alexander continued. "It has refused to confirm several when the President and Senate majority were of different parties. Senator McConnell is only doing what Democrat leaders have said they would do if the shoe were on the other foot."

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 20 Sept 2020, 23:32 last edited by
                        #80

                        Just saw Coons from Connecticut interviewed. He kept taking about the sacredness of the Supreme Court and the dying wish of Ginsburg.

                        There hasn't been a Jew hoisted that high on a cross, since Jesus was crucified on Golgotha Hill.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • J Jolly
                          20 Sept 2020, 23:32

                          Just saw Coons from Connecticut interviewed. He kept taking about the sacredness of the Supreme Court and the dying wish of Ginsburg.

                          There hasn't been a Jew hoisted that high on a cross, since Jesus was crucified on Golgotha Hill.

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                          Copper
                          wrote on 21 Sept 2020, 00:00 last edited by
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                          @Jolly said in RBG has passed away:

                          Just saw Coons from Connecticut interviewed.

                          They don't call them that in Connecticut.

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                            21 Sept 2020, 00:00

                            @Jolly said in RBG has passed away:

                            Just saw Coons from Connecticut interviewed.

                            They don't call them that in Connecticut.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 21 Sept 2020, 00:02 last edited by
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                            @Copper said in RBG has passed away:

                            @Jolly said in RBG has passed away:

                            Just saw Coons from Connecticut interviewed.

                            They don't call them that in Connecticut.

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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              21 Sept 2020, 00:00

                              @Jolly said in RBG has passed away:

                              Just saw Coons from Connecticut interviewed.

                              They don't call them that in Connecticut.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 21 Sept 2020, 00:03 last edited by
                              #83

                              @Copper said in RBG has passed away:

                              @Jolly said in RBG has passed away:

                              Just saw Coons from Connecticut interviewed.

                              They don't call them that in Connecticut.

                              Speak to the Coons...

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                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 21 Sept 2020, 00:39 last edited by
                                #84

                                You were confusing me! Coons is from DE...

                                The Brad

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 21 Sept 2020, 01:31 last edited by
                                  #85

                                  It’s going to be hard to get a vote in before the election. More likely to happen in Mid-November which makes things all kinds of more interesting. I find those scenarios more interesting...

                                  I agree with Jon about the open seat helping Trump’s re-election efforts. It definitely has me rethinking my options.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • L LuFins Dad
                                    21 Sept 2020, 00:39

                                    You were confusing me! Coons is from DE...

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 21 Sept 2020, 01:33 last edited by
                                    #86

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in RBG has passed away:

                                    You were confusing me! Coons is from DE...

                                    Sorry.😮 They all look alike to me...

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      21 Sept 2020, 01:31

                                      It’s going to be hard to get a vote in before the election. More likely to happen in Mid-November which makes things all kinds of more interesting. I find those scenarios more interesting...

                                      I agree with Jon about the open seat helping Trump’s re-election efforts. It definitely has me rethinking my options.

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                                      Rainman
                                      wrote on 21 Sept 2020, 02:30 last edited by
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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in RBG has passed away:

                                      It’s going to be hard to get a vote in before the election. More likely to happen in Mid-November which makes things all kinds of more interesting. I find those scenarios more interesting...

                                      I agree with Jon about the open seat helping Trump’s re-election efforts. It definitely has me rethinking my options.

                                      LuFins, what do you mean by "rethinking my options?"

                                      I have found that when things are complicated, like 10 layers thick, I can get to layer 3-4 by myself. So, whenever I can learn from someone else, that's helpful and gives me things to ponder.

                                      I have also never been able to "read" people very well. I'm serious, and it's been pointed out to me over the years. I'm great at "words have meaning, so say what you mean and mean what you say!" But, when it comes out that I should "read between the lines" I have a tough time. Body language, expressions, devious people, I have to be very cautious even if I don't really understand the hidden dynamics.

                                      Hey, just answer the damn question. I went off on my nutso weakness, what a marroon I am at times.

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                                      • J jon-nyc
                                        20 Sept 2020, 10:50

                                        Nice little roundup here.

                                        2016, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas): “It has been 80 years since a Supreme Court vacancy was nominated and confirmed in an election year. There is a long tradition that you don’t do this in an election year.”
                                        2018, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.): “If an opening comes in the last year of President Trump’s term, and the primary process has started, we’ll wait to the next election.”
                                        2016, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.): “I don’t think we should be moving on a nominee in the last year of this president’s term - I would say that if it was a Republican president.”
                                        2016, Sen. David Perdue (R-Ga.): “The very balance of our nation’s highest court is in serious jeopardy. As a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, I will do everything in my power to encourage the president and Senate leadership not to start this process until we hear from the American people.”
                                        2016, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa): “A lifetime appointment that could dramatically impact individual freedoms and change the direction of the court for at least a generation is too important to get bogged down in politics. The American people shouldn’t be denied a voice.”
                                        2016, Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.): “The campaign is already under way. It is essential to the institution of the Senate and to the very health of our republic to not launch our nation into a partisan, divisive confirmation battle during the very same time the American people are casting their ballots to elect our next president.”
                                        2016, Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.): “In this election year, the American people will have an opportunity to have their say in the future direction of our country. For this reason, I believe the vacancy left open by Justice Antonin Scalia should not be filled until there is a new president.”
                                        2016, Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.): “The Senate should not confirm a new Supreme Court justice until we have a new president.”
                                        2016, Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Col.): “I think we’re too close to the election. The president who is elected in November should be the one who makes this decision.”
                                        2016, Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio): “I believe the best thing for the country is to trust the American people to weigh in on who should make a lifetime appointment that could reshape the Supreme Court for generations. This wouldn’t be unusual. It is common practice for the Senate to stop acting on lifetime appointments during the last year of a presidential term, and it’s been nearly 80 years since any president was permitted to immediately fill a vacancy that arose in a presidential election year.”
                                        2016, Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.): “I strongly agree that the American people should decide the future direction of the Supreme Court by their votes for president and the majority party in the U.S. Senate.”
                                        “The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president.”
                                        Mitch McConnell, March 2016

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                                        89th
                                        wrote on 21 Sept 2020, 03:07 last edited by
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                                        @jon-nyc said in RBG has passed away:

                                        Nice little roundup here.

                                        2016, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas): “It has been 80 years since a Supreme Court vacancy was nominated and confirmed in an election year. There is a long tradition that you don’t do this in an election year.”
                                        2018, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.): “If an opening comes in the last year of President Trump’s term, and the primary process has started, we’ll wait to the next election.”
                                        2016, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.): “I don’t think we should be moving on a nominee in the last year of this president’s term - I would say that if it was a Republican president.”
                                        2016, Sen. David Perdue (R-Ga.): “The very balance of our nation’s highest court is in serious jeopardy. As a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, I will do everything in my power to encourage the president and Senate leadership not to start this process until we hear from the American people.”
                                        2016, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa): “A lifetime appointment that could dramatically impact individual freedoms and change the direction of the court for at least a generation is too important to get bogged down in politics. The American people shouldn’t be denied a voice.”
                                        2016, Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.): “The campaign is already under way. It is essential to the institution of the Senate and to the very health of our republic to not launch our nation into a partisan, divisive confirmation battle during the very same time the American people are casting their ballots to elect our next president.”
                                        2016, Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.): “In this election year, the American people will have an opportunity to have their say in the future direction of our country. For this reason, I believe the vacancy left open by Justice Antonin Scalia should not be filled until there is a new president.”
                                        2016, Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.): “The Senate should not confirm a new Supreme Court justice until we have a new president.”
                                        2016, Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Col.): “I think we’re too close to the election. The president who is elected in November should be the one who makes this decision.”
                                        2016, Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio): “I believe the best thing for the country is to trust the American people to weigh in on who should make a lifetime appointment that could reshape the Supreme Court for generations. This wouldn’t be unusual. It is common practice for the Senate to stop acting on lifetime appointments during the last year of a presidential term, and it’s been nearly 80 years since any president was permitted to immediately fill a vacancy that arose in a presidential election year.”
                                        2016, Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.): “I strongly agree that the American people should decide the future direction of the Supreme Court by their votes for president and the majority party in the U.S. Senate.”
                                        “The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president.”
                                        Mitch McConnell, March 2016

                                        I haven’t read the rest of the thread yet but I’d imagine there’s an equally long list of democrat quotes in 2016 saying the opposite, that a nominee should be voted on, regardless of the election.

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                                          21 Sept 2020, 03:07

                                          @jon-nyc said in RBG has passed away:

                                          Nice little roundup here.

                                          2016, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas): “It has been 80 years since a Supreme Court vacancy was nominated and confirmed in an election year. There is a long tradition that you don’t do this in an election year.”
                                          2018, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.): “If an opening comes in the last year of President Trump’s term, and the primary process has started, we’ll wait to the next election.”
                                          2016, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.): “I don’t think we should be moving on a nominee in the last year of this president’s term - I would say that if it was a Republican president.”
                                          2016, Sen. David Perdue (R-Ga.): “The very balance of our nation’s highest court is in serious jeopardy. As a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, I will do everything in my power to encourage the president and Senate leadership not to start this process until we hear from the American people.”
                                          2016, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa): “A lifetime appointment that could dramatically impact individual freedoms and change the direction of the court for at least a generation is too important to get bogged down in politics. The American people shouldn’t be denied a voice.”
                                          2016, Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.): “The campaign is already under way. It is essential to the institution of the Senate and to the very health of our republic to not launch our nation into a partisan, divisive confirmation battle during the very same time the American people are casting their ballots to elect our next president.”
                                          2016, Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.): “In this election year, the American people will have an opportunity to have their say in the future direction of our country. For this reason, I believe the vacancy left open by Justice Antonin Scalia should not be filled until there is a new president.”
                                          2016, Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.): “The Senate should not confirm a new Supreme Court justice until we have a new president.”
                                          2016, Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Col.): “I think we’re too close to the election. The president who is elected in November should be the one who makes this decision.”
                                          2016, Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio): “I believe the best thing for the country is to trust the American people to weigh in on who should make a lifetime appointment that could reshape the Supreme Court for generations. This wouldn’t be unusual. It is common practice for the Senate to stop acting on lifetime appointments during the last year of a presidential term, and it’s been nearly 80 years since any president was permitted to immediately fill a vacancy that arose in a presidential election year.”
                                          2016, Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.): “I strongly agree that the American people should decide the future direction of the Supreme Court by their votes for president and the majority party in the U.S. Senate.”
                                          “The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president.”
                                          Mitch McConnell, March 2016

                                          I haven’t read the rest of the thread yet but I’d imagine there’s an equally long list of democrat quotes in 2016 saying the opposite, that a nominee should be voted on, regardless of the election.

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                                          Kincaid
                                          wrote on 21 Sept 2020, 04:11 last edited by Kincaid
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                                          @89th

                                          Yep, hypocrisy on both sides and surprisingly equal.

                                          I am also surprised if Mitt wants to not vote. Does he want to be a one-term Senator....or does he know he is already there and hopes to be thought of as "principled"?

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