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RBG has passed away

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #36

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • HoraceH Online
      HoraceH Online
      Horace
      wrote on last edited by
      #37

      RBG? More like RIP.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on last edited by
        #38

        Yeah, all the excuses in 2016 were ill conceived and regrettable. They should have just said “we have the power to block any appointment and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”Today they should say”we have the power to appoint a nominee and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”

        Senate elections have consequences.

        The Brad

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        • bachophileB Offline
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          bachophile
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          #39

          I know there will be a lot of chatter about RBG and who will replace.

          But I thought it interesting what antonin Scalias son posted on twitter on what his dad felt about RBG

          There was a time when liberals and conservatives could not only respect one another, they could actually care for them deeply.

          Where did those days go??

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          • MikM Away
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            Mik
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            #40

            Indeed. I would have hoped we could at least hold off on the politics and vitriol until she was in the ground.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
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              #41

              I never met Scalia, but he used to duck hunt about twenty miles from where I live. The guys that guided or worked around him, said he was a first class individual.

              Good tipper, too...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #42

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #43

                  alt text

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #44

                    If they have the votes, they have the votes.

                    In 2016 they had the ability to block so they blocked.

                    Everything else is just noise.

                    The Brad

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #45

                      Biden - head of the modern day lynching.

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                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • L Offline
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                        Loki
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #46

                        Calling people hypocrites and accusing them of impure motives is but actually hilarious given what we have witnessed since the last election.

                        How anyone can make this charge with a straight face is beyond me.

                        I just laugh when I read this stuff.

                        George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                        • L Loki

                          Calling people hypocrites and accusing them of impure motives is but actually hilarious given what we have witnessed since the last election.

                          How anyone can make this charge with a straight face is beyond me.

                          I just laugh when I read this stuff.

                          George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #47

                          @Loki said in RBG has passed away:

                          Calling people hypocrites and accusing them of impure motives is but actually hilarious given what we have witnessed since the last election.
                          How anyone can make this charge with a straight face is beyond me.

                          Ann Althouse comments:

                          =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

                          But also be clear about this: Was Barack Obama wrong to nominate Merrick Garland? You must clearly say that he was or I won't "let you" be clear.

                          Let me be clear: The voters should pick a President, and that President should select a successor to Justice Ginsburg.
                          — Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) September 19, 2020

                          ADDED: From Barack Obama's statement on the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg:

                          Four and a half years ago, when Republicans refused to hold a hearing or an up-or-down vote on Merrick Garland, they invented the principle that the Senate shouldn’t fill an open seat on the Supreme Court before a new president was sworn in.

                          A basic principle of the law — and of everyday fairness — is that we apply rules with consistency, and not based on what’s convenient or advantageous in the moment.

                          How does that basic principle apply to you, President Obama? You went ahead and made a nomination. Why shouldn't the new President follow his predecessor's precedent. What can you say to me that isn't "based on what’s convenient or advantageous in the moment"? It's hard to play the hypocrisy card!

                          AND:

                          .@GOP We were put in this position of power and importance to make decisions for the people who so proudly elected us, the most important of which has long been considered to be the selection of United States Supreme Court Justices. We have this obligation, without delay!
                          — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 19, 2020

                          ALSO: Speaking of "what's convenient or advantageous in the moment," why did Senator Kamala Harris vote against Neil Gorsuch?! Here's her statement. Can anyone seriously portray that as based on anything lofty?

                          Judge Gorsuch's deeply conservative views put him well outside the mainstream.... Given the controversial nature of this nominee, it is deeply unfortunate Senate Republicans took unprecedented steps to ram Judge Gorsuch through the Senate instead of the President working with Democrats and Republicans to find a consensus nominee.

                          That's a frank claim of power by a Senator. Obama frankly exercised the power that he had to make a nomination, and the Senators frankly exercised the power that they had. They haven't laid the groundwork to argue that the Senate majority shouldn't cast the votes it has and confirm.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            If they have the votes, they have the votes.

                            In 2016 they had the ability to block so they blocked.

                            Everything else is just noise.

                            MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #48

                            @LuFins-Dad said in RBG has passed away:

                            If they have the votes, they have the votes.

                            In 2016 they had the ability to block so they blocked.

                            Everything else is just noise.

                            Yup.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • HoraceH Online
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                              Horace
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #49

                              Yup indeed. The law is the rules of the game. There is no notion of fair play worth discussing beyond those rules. Trying to imply otherwise is a commonly seen bit of tribalism and stupidity.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                Yeah, all the excuses in 2016 were ill conceived and regrettable. They should have just said “we have the power to block any appointment and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”Today they should say”we have the power to appoint a nominee and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”

                                Senate elections have consequences.

                                89th8 Online
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                                89th
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #50

                                @LuFins-Dad said in RBG has passed away:

                                Yeah, all the excuses in 2016 were ill conceived and regrettable. They should have just said “we have the power to block any appointment and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”Today they should say”we have the power to appoint a nominee and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”

                                Senate elections have consequences.

                                https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/08/history-is-on-the-side-of-republicans-filling-a-supreme-court-vacancy-in-2020/

                                Very wonky article but has a lot of history and facts behind it

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                                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #51

                                  If it was a Dem held Senate in 2016, what would have been the results?

                                  The Brad

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                                  • 89th8 Online
                                    89th8 Online
                                    89th
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #52

                                    Or Biden/Dem Senate in 2024? Mark my words... 🙂

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                                    • 89th8 89th

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in RBG has passed away:

                                      Yeah, all the excuses in 2016 were ill conceived and regrettable. They should have just said “we have the power to block any appointment and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”Today they should say”we have the power to appoint a nominee and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”

                                      Senate elections have consequences.

                                      https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/08/history-is-on-the-side-of-republicans-filling-a-supreme-court-vacancy-in-2020/

                                      Very wonky article but has a lot of history and facts behind it

                                      George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #53

                                      @89th said in RBG has passed away:

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in RBG has passed away:

                                      Yeah, all the excuses in 2016 were ill conceived and regrettable. They should have just said “we have the power to block any appointment and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”Today they should say”we have the power to appoint a nominee and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”

                                      Senate elections have consequences.

                                      https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/08/history-is-on-the-side-of-republicans-filling-a-supreme-court-vacancy-in-2020/

                                      Very wonky article but has a lot of history and facts behind it

                                      Good article indeed, and when you consider it was written 6 weeks ago it seems prescient.

                                      Someone commented, referring to RBG’s alleged dying wish about delaying the nomination and vote that, if she were that concerned about the nomination, she should have stepped down when Obama was president.

                                      But we all knew that Clinton was going to win, didn’t we?

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #54

                                        Susan Collins a hard nope.

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                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • HoraceH Online
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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #55

                                          Nominating SCOTUS judges is one area where even you jon concede that Trump is not necessarily terrible compared to the other side.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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