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  • HoraceH Offline
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    #99

    Obviously too categorical a claim, but directionally true in many cases. I used to write pretty extensively here about the perils and evils of self righteousness, because it's the most obvious human failing one can see just by looking around. A more advanced branch of those thoughts would recognize how adaptive mindless slaughter can be for the cognitive genes that control us, but we needed a mode of mind that allowed for that mindless slaughter while turning around with that very same mind and being generous, cooperative humans with our tribe. Thus the dissonance. It's baked into humans.

    Education is extremely important.

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      One is reminded of Solzhenitsyn’s line from Gulag Archipelago that Jordan Peterson loves to quote - the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties, but right through every human heart.

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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        He is the founder and CEO of The Federalist.

        IMG_7709.jpeg

        LuFins DadL Offline
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        #101

        @jon-nyc said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

        He is the founder and CEO of The Federalist.

        IMG_7709.jpeg

        Yeah… But in all fairness? Charlie was very likely a personal friend to him. One thing that I’ve learned a lot about over the last couple of days is just how active Kirk was in building the weird hodgepodge alliance of conservatives supporting Trump. He was evidently the guy that brought Shapiro and The Daily Wire to the fold, had much influence with The Federalist. The description I keep hearing is coalition builder. So this is quite a bit more personal for a lot of these guys…

        The Brad

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        • kluursK kluurs

          Interesting that the story about the casings having trans focused messaging was erroneous - and much like some of the erroneous 9/11 stories from back in the day, it helps to wait a bit to react to verified information. I'm as goofy as the next person in wanting to pick up and run with something that fits my world view, so I understand why it happens and how a mob can feed on such red meat. It's human nature. Hopefully, when the dolphins evolve and take over the world, they'll do better.

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          #102

          @kluurs said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

          Interesting that the story about the casings having trans focused messaging was erroneous -

          One of the casings was etched “Notices Bulge, OwO, what’s this?” That’s actually a furry/trans joke. So the reports were kinda accurate.

          The Brad

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            @kluurs said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

            Interesting that the story about the casings having trans focused messaging was erroneous -

            One of the casings was etched “Notices Bulge, OwO, what’s this?” That’s actually a furry/trans joke. So the reports were kinda accurate.

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            @LuFins-Dad said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

            @kluurs said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

            Interesting that the story about the casings having trans focused messaging was erroneous -

            One of the casings was etched “Notices Bulge, OwO, what’s this?” That’s actually a furry/trans joke. So the reports were kinda accurate.

            When I had asked AI the meaning it referenced it as a furry meme. If there's more to it, I'm unaware.

            Shooter ruined his life, his family's, Kirk's and horribly...Kirk's wife and two children - and for the hatred he alleged to be fighting.

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            • MikM Offline
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              #104

              Yes. there are no winners here.

              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                One is reminded of Solzhenitsyn’s line from Gulag Archipelago that Jordan Peterson loves to quote - the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties, but right through every human heart.

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                #105

                @jon-nyc said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

                One is reminded of Solzhenitsyn’s line from Gulag Archipelago that Jordan Peterson loves to quote - the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties, but right through every human heart.

                So, he's saying it's subjective or arbitrary?

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  @jon-nyc said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

                  One is reminded of Solzhenitsyn’s line from Gulag Archipelago that Jordan Peterson loves to quote - the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties, but right through every human heart.

                  So, he's saying it's subjective or arbitrary?

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                  #106

                  @Axtremus said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

                  @jon-nyc said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

                  One is reminded of Solzhenitsyn’s line from Gulag Archipelago that Jordan Peterson loves to quote - the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties, but right through every human heart.

                  So, he's saying it's subjective or arbitrary?

                  Not even close.

                  The Brad

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                    #107

                    Eh ... "every human heart" seems pretty subjective, pretty arbitrary.

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      Eh ... "every human heart" seems pretty subjective, pretty arbitrary.

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                      #108

                      @Axtremus said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

                      Eh ... "every human heart" seems pretty subjective, pretty arbitrary.

                      Every? Nothing subjective there. 100%. Each and every single one. Nothing arbitrary, that is an absolute.

                      The Brad

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        #109

                        Yeah, I agree. Not subjective and, I believe, quite true if we want to be honest with ourselves. I know I’ve done things that could be construed as evil.

                        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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