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Hey 89! And Brenda!

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  • 89th8 Offline
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    89th
    wrote on last edited by 89th
    #21

    It sucks, but this will happen again and again. It's extremely unlikely to happen to you (again...100x more likely to get hurt driving to school than at school). Improved mental health programs and increased rigor on who can purchase or carry a gun, that'll help. But America is still the wild west compared to many countries. Add in a much larger country (many more schools, many people people, much larger geography)... it'll happen again. Sucks.

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      @89th said in Hey 89! And Brenda!:

      It's cliche, but I still don't think guns are the problem, it's all mental health. So many warning signs, almost each time there is a shooting.

      The question we're bound to ask is why this seems to happen so much more often in the USA than in other comparable countries. What is it that's different here?

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      @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey 89! And Brenda!:

      @89th said in Hey 89! And Brenda!:

      It's cliche, but I still don't think guns are the problem, it's all mental health. So many warning signs, almost each time there is a shooting.

      The question we're bound to ask is why this seems to happen so much more often in the USA than in other comparable countries. What is it that's different here?

      A lot of it is culture, and the things that @89th points out,

      Culture is the same reason why in Taiwan, Japan, Korea, etc., I could leave my phone and/or computer on the table of a coffee shop and walk away for 30 minutes or more and be (close to) 100% sure that it will be there when I return.

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        #23

        Damn this is hard to watch.

        Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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          jon-nyc
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          #24

          Poorly written article but in a note he seems to have regretted turning trans, blamed ‘brainwashing’ and had anger about the way his mother handled it while admitting she was right.

          Seems she told him he would regret it someday, that day came, but he resented her before being right all along.

          Then, oddly, he tells his parents “I’ve kept those traits of empathy, self-sacrifice, and good character. Please do not think you have failed as parents.”

          https://nypost.com/2025/08/29/us-news/minneapolis-gunman-robin-westman-blamed-massacre-on-mom-warning-him-not-to-change-gender-and-discouraged-people-from-letting-their-kids-transition/

          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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          • MikM Away
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            Mik
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            Man, did he ever poke the hornet's nest. This will be trotted out by both sides of the issue with wildly different interpretations. It may even expose a side we have not heard of.

            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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              They’ve removed the paragraphs and pictures that identified the male as a male.

              They don’t use ‘she’ yet. No pronouns yet. the shooter this, the shooter that.

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              @jon-nyc said in Hey 89! And Brenda!:

              They’ve removed the paragraphs and pictures that identified the male as a male.

              They don’t use ‘she’ yet. No pronouns yet. the shooter this, the shooter that.

              They edited the article to use ‘she’. All is right with the world.

              Surprisingly, there’s still a paragraph indicating that he’s trans. I would have thought the activist community would have convinced them that it is totally irrelevant and they should remove it.

              No picture of the shooter. Not in WaPo either.

              Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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              • MikM Away
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                #27

                Good. Don’t glorify them

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                • MikM Mik

                  Man, did he ever poke the hornet's nest. This will be trotted out by both sides of the issue with wildly different interpretations. It may even expose a side we have not heard of.

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                  @Mik said in Hey 89! And Brenda!:

                  Man, did he ever poke the hornet's nest. This will be trotted out by both sides of the issue with wildly different interpretations. It may even expose a side we have not heard of.

                  'Bout time it was poked--this was not the way, though. Dead kids are never the answer, but it seems that's the way they want it.

                  Ego similis habere bonum et non curat nunquam accipere malum.

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                  • MikM Away
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                    I support their right to live and dress as they please. But do not expect me to believe it or pretend with them to believe it.

                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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