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So let me get this straight…

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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
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    Ax, how do you feel about needles, cooking bottle caps, sprayed blood and nodding junkies? Just come to Indianapolis right outside the courthouse. It’s a disgrace.

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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    • MikM Mik

      Ax, how do you feel about needles, cooking bottle caps, sprayed blood and nodding junkies? Just come to Indianapolis right outside the courthouse. It’s a disgrace.

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      @Mik said in So let me get this straight…:

      Ax, how do you feel about needles, cooking bottle caps, sprayed blood and nodding junkies?

      Will let you know how I feel about those when I see them. 🤷

      Just come to Indianapolis right outside the courthouse. It’s a disgrace.

      In your opinion is what you have seen disgraceful enough to make you want the federal government to take over?

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        Seems like a well designed diversion to get the base on to something besides the Epstein files. Democrats rather predictably took the bait. Good job politically, Team Trump.

        As for the substance I think one can think crime is a problem in DC and doubt that Trump’s approach will fix much. I’ve heard his peeps are heavily patrolling highly visible areas not particularly known for out-of-control crime, like Union Station and the mall, and far less present in the actual high crime areas. Which is what you’d expect when the author of the policy judges his underlings based on how this comes off on Fox News.

        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          As much as I think he’s a tool, I’m enjoying Newsom’s new habit of trolling the administration.

          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            As much as I think he’s a tool, I’m enjoying Newsom’s new habit of trolling the administration.

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            @jon-nyc said in So let me get this straight…:

            As much as I think he’s a tool, I’m enjoying Newsom’s new habit of trolling the administration.

            Not at all… It’s Federal land and property. The DC National Guard is the President’s to command. The Guard coming from WV are still commanded by the Governor of WV, they are just being placed under command of the President willingly by the Governor. There is no federalizing of the National Guard. It’s a stoopid argument to try to make.

            The Brad

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              And I just drove through most of DC to get to Howard University this morning. Didn’t see any NG, extra Law Enforcement, or protesters. I did see the remnants of the homeless camp off the E Street Expressway that still needs to be cleaned up.

              The Brad

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                I’ll be there most of the week of the 8th. Staying on E street at the Kimpton George. I’m curious what I’ll see then.

                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  I doubt you’ll really see much. I’m assuming I didn’t see anything this morning because the protests were still getting prepped. It will likely be very different when I leave this afternoon.

                  The timing might also be slowing things. Back to school, colleges just getting back to campus…

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    @jon-nyc said in So let me get this straight…:

                    As much as I think he’s a tool, I’m enjoying Newsom’s new habit of trolling the administration.

                    Not at all… It’s Federal land and property. The DC National Guard is the President’s to command. The Guard coming from WV are still commanded by the Governor of WV, they are just being placed under command of the President willingly by the Governor. There is no federalizing of the National Guard. It’s a stoopid argument to try to make.

                    89th8 Online
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                    @LuFins-Dad said in So let me get this straight…:

                    @jon-nyc said in So let me get this straight…:

                    As much as I think he’s a tool, I’m enjoying Newsom’s new habit of trolling the administration.

                    Not at all… It’s Federal land and property.

                    What is federal land and property? Sorry, not sure what you were referring to.

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                    • 89th8 Online
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                      I don't think it's Kristallnacht or racist, but it's certainly unnecessary. As @jon-nyc it's a pure distraction move (an old strategy found on page 1 of Trump's playbook). It's sad how much money is spent, resources distracted, and people's lives are impacted just to protect Trump's fragile ego.

                      Crime in DC has been much worse before, and after the COVID/BLM increase from 2021-2023, has been on a decline... but yes I guess in 2025, now we need to send in the troops and tanks.

                      As with all things, just imagine MAGA's reaction had Biden done what Trump does.

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                      More data here: https://jasher.substack.com/p/assessing-dcs-violent-crime-trends

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                        @LuFins-Dad said in So let me get this straight…:

                        @jon-nyc said in So let me get this straight…:

                        As much as I think he’s a tool, I’m enjoying Newsom’s new habit of trolling the administration.

                        Not at all… It’s Federal land and property.

                        What is federal land and property? Sorry, not sure what you were referring to.

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                        @89th said in So let me get this straight…:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in So let me get this straight…:

                        @jon-nyc said in So let me get this straight…:

                        As much as I think he’s a tool, I’m enjoying Newsom’s new habit of trolling the administration.

                        Not at all… It’s Federal land and property.

                        What is federal land and property? Sorry, not sure what you were referring to.

                        DC is a Federal district, answering to the Federal Government. They are not a state, or a commonwealth. Technically, it’s not even a city, it’s a Federal District. Things that Trump are not allowed to do regarding other states/cities as a matter of Constitutional Authority do not completely apply, here.

                        Even Maureen Dowd agrees he is in the legal and moral right, here. https://www.irishtimes.com/world/us/2025/08/17/opposition-must-be-wary-of-slating-trumps-washington-dc-crackdown/

                        The Brad

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                        • 89th8 89th

                          I don't think it's Kristallnacht or racist, but it's certainly unnecessary. As @jon-nyc it's a pure distraction move (an old strategy found on page 1 of Trump's playbook). It's sad how much money is spent, resources distracted, and people's lives are impacted just to protect Trump's fragile ego.

                          Crime in DC has been much worse before, and after the COVID/BLM increase from 2021-2023, has been on a decline... but yes I guess in 2025, now we need to send in the troops and tanks.

                          As with all things, just imagine MAGA's reaction had Biden done what Trump does.

                          image.png

                          More data here: https://jasher.substack.com/p/assessing-dcs-violent-crime-trends

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                          @89th said in So let me get this straight…:

                          I don't think it's Kristallnacht or racist, but it's certainly unnecessary. As @jon-nyc it's a pure distraction move (an old strategy found on page 1 of Trump's playbook). It's sad how much money is spent, resources distracted, and people's lives are impacted just to protect Trump's fragile ego.

                          Crime in DC has been much worse before, and after the COVID/BLM increase from 2021-2023, has been on a decline... but yes I guess in 2025, now we need to send in the troops and tanks.

                          As with all things, just imagine MAGA's reaction had Biden done what Trump does.

                          image.png

                          More data here: https://jasher.substack.com/p/assessing-dcs-violent-crime-trends

                          You’re working under the misguided notion that reporting has been consistent. I suggest you research what the DC Police Union has been saying on the subject.

                          The Brad

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                          • MikM Away
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                            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                            • MikM Away
                              MikM Away
                              Mik
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                              He did not say this, one of his callers did.

                              https://www.aol.com/news/joe-scarborough-reads-text-air-151230065.html

                              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                              • MikM Mik

                                He did not say this, one of his callers did.

                                https://www.aol.com/news/joe-scarborough-reads-text-air-151230065.html

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                                @Mik said in So let me get this straight…:

                                He did not say this, one of his callers did.

                                https://www.aol.com/news/joe-scarborough-reads-text-air-151230065.html

                                It wasn’t one of his callers, it was a text from a personal friend of his who is one of those democrats. I listened to him read it.

                                The Brad

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                                  When I get back to the office, I will relate my own incident with a member of the DC Police 1 hour ago.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    @89th said in So let me get this straight…:

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in So let me get this straight…:

                                    @jon-nyc said in So let me get this straight…:

                                    As much as I think he’s a tool, I’m enjoying Newsom’s new habit of trolling the administration.

                                    Not at all… It’s Federal land and property.

                                    What is federal land and property? Sorry, not sure what you were referring to.

                                    DC is a Federal district, answering to the Federal Government. They are not a state, or a commonwealth. Technically, it’s not even a city, it’s a Federal District. Things that Trump are not allowed to do regarding other states/cities as a matter of Constitutional Authority do not completely apply, here.

                                    Even Maureen Dowd agrees he is in the legal and moral right, here. https://www.irishtimes.com/world/us/2025/08/17/opposition-must-be-wary-of-slating-trumps-washington-dc-crackdown/

                                    89th8 Online
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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in So let me get this straight…:

                                    @89th said in So let me get this straight…:

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in So let me get this straight…:

                                    @jon-nyc said in So let me get this straight…:

                                    As much as I think he’s a tool, I’m enjoying Newsom’s new habit of trolling the administration.

                                    Not at all… It’s Federal land and property.

                                    What is federal land and property? Sorry, not sure what you were referring to.

                                    DC is a Federal district, answering to the Federal Government.

                                    Less than 25% of DC land is federal property FYI. Yes it's a federal district, created congressionally, and all that... but it's not like the plaza in front of the Capitol is the same thing as folks living in their homes on 3rd street.

                                    With DC crimes at almost historic lows compared to the last 50 years, and on a decline over the last year or two as well, even this type of response is pure marketing/distraction from Trump.

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