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  • HoraceH Horace

    It would have been interesting to see how the socialized supermarkets dealt with shoplifters. The politicians who started the stores are the same ones who barely think shoplifting should be a crime.

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    @Horace said in Mamdani:

    It would have been interesting to see how the socialized supermarkets dealt with shoplifters. The politicians who started the stores are the same ones who barely think shoplifting should be a crime.

    Well, they wouldn’t have any police to enforce the laws even if they decided to…

    The Brad

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      Not to be "that guy" but would these city-run grocery stores to address food desserts (which is a real thing in poor communities) have fresh, healthy food (fruit, veggies, pasta, whole wheat bread, chicken breasts...) or would it be cans of pringles, and bottles of fanta on the shelves?

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      • MikM Away
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        That's a nice dream. Michelle Obama had it for school lunches too. It ended up being massive food waste.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          The idea of government run groceries in these grocery “deserts” as an answer is absolutely ludicrous and dangerous. It’s an attempt to go around the problem without addressing the root causes, ultimately making things much worse.

          The Brad

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          • 89th8 Online
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            Wasted food or failed demand? Could be heavy handed, but a strict program could enforce the health quality.

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              Wasted food or failed demand? Could be heavy handed, but a strict program could enforce the health quality.

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              @89th said in Mamdani:

              Wasted food or failed demand? Could be heavy handed, but a strict program could enforce the health quality.

              And you don’t see the very real problem with that statement?

              The Brad

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              • MikM Away
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                People have to want to eat healthy, and in lower SES that is not as common.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • 89th8 Online
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                  Ha I get it, I tell my kids "if you're hungry you'll eat it" all the time. I know how effective that is(n't).

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                    From a few days ago:

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      As Ezra and Matt investigated these sorts of things through their careers, they found that their previous talking points don't hold up to much scrutiny, and they migrated towards the policy center. Being smart and honest will do that. Too bad Ezra will never take any responsibility for his Sam Harris debate era self, who was a total SJW douche.

                      I remember one of Matt's talking points of many years ago on Vox, about how the stock market doesn't matter to anybody. He doesn't own any stocks, and nobody he knows owns any stocks. I bet he doesn't say that anymore.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        Gary Kasparov, no friend of socialism, had this to say:

                        An NYC mayor who doesn’t believe in capitalism is like a Secretary of Health who doesn’t believe in vaccines. Sorry, bad example!

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                        • MikM Away
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                          Capitalists will be his downfall. I think he's about to learn a valuable lesson.

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bill-ackman-s-hundreds-of-millions-of-dollars-in-nyc-mayoral-race-goes-to-eric-adams-ready-to-go-to-battle-guns-blazing-against-zohran-mamdani/ar-AA1HTX1f

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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