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The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    Yeah most of the debt increase comes from the TCJA extension and he’d vote for that standalone.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      I’m changing my over/under on the Trump rebuke to tomorrow with a twist - 10% chance Trump comes out on his side.

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      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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        @taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

        @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

        That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?

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        @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

        @taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

        @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

        That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?

        Op-Ed by Dario Amodei, the CEO of Anthropic, an AI technology company:

        https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/05/opinion/anthropic-ceo-regulate-transparency.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Mk8.GCbk.gEk4FB4DnAhU

        ... a 10-year moratorium is far too blunt an instrument. A.I. is advancing too head-spinningly fast. I believe that these systems could change the world, fundamentally, within two years; in 10 years, all bets are off. Without a clear plan for a federal response, a moratorium would give us the worst of both worlds — no ability for states to act, and no national policy as a backstop.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Yeah most of the debt increase comes from the TCJA extension and he’d vote for that standalone.

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          @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

          Yeah most of the debt increase comes from the TCJA extension and he’d vote for that standalone.

          Considering how poorly the CBO projected the 2017 TCJA, why should we trust their numbers this time?

          The Brad

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            I’m changing my over/under on the Trump rebuke to tomorrow with a twist - 10% chance Trump comes out on his side.

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            @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

            I’m changing my over/under on the Trump rebuke to tomorrow …

            https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-president-administration-news-06-05-25#cmbjkbhvx00053b6s86gyygp9

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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              I’ve helped Elon a lot,” Trump said.

              How so?

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                Bessent in Congress today:

                “50% of Americans are financially insecure. Do you think any of them are gonna suffer from the cuts in Medicaid, SNAP, and ACA?” - Moore

                “I believe they will be better off.” - Bessent

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  So he thinks the net effect of the bill will be to make them better off.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/06/19/gop-budget-misleading-regressive/

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