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The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.

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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    #108

    Hakeem Jeffries - “The bill will unleash a deportation machine on steroids”

    “An all out assault on the care provided by Planned Parenthood”

    Hakeem is making me reconsider my opposition to this bill.

    The Brad

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      Hakeem Jeffries - “The bill will unleash a deportation machine on steroids”

      “An all out assault on the care provided by Planned Parenthood”

      Hakeem is making me reconsider my opposition to this bill.

      AxtremusA Offline
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      @LuFins-Dad said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

      Hakeem is making me reconsider my opposition to this bill.

      You trying to admit that you are gullible?

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        LuFins Dad
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        #110

        Personally, I can’t stand this stack of crap that is being pushed in this bill, but the extension of the tax cuts? This is a sword of Damocles thing. We’re basically effed either way, with the only real small but possible solution being growing our way out of the current hole we are in. I don’t see raising taxes to be an effective method to stimulate growth. And while I have moral and ethical problems with the removal of taxes on tip wages and overtime, the practical effect is negligible, and I have always had an issue with taxing SS income.

        The Brad

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          @LuFins-Dad said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

          Hakeem is making me reconsider my opposition to this bill.

          You trying to admit that you are gullible?

          LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
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          #111

          @Axtremus said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

          @LuFins-Dad said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

          Hakeem is making me reconsider my opposition to this bill.

          You trying to admit that you are gullible?

          I’m trying to say that the biggest allies to DJT and MAGA are his opponents. What a sad and miserable lot.

          The Brad

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
            #112

            Gee, I wonder what time the house held its procedural vote on the largest debt increase in human history?

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            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              #113

              So you may have heard Hakim Jeffries broke the record and spoke for 8hrs and 45m to delay voting on the bill.

              I was curious so I looked up who had the record he broke. It was Kevin McCarthy, who also as minority leader delayed a vote on a big Biden bill in 2021.

              He spoke 8hrs and 32m, to break the previous record before that. I was curious who held that previous record so I looked it up.

              It was Nancy Pelosi, who spoke for 8hrs and 7m in 2018 delaying a vote on a Trump bill.

              So apparently this is a thing now. Future minority leaders should be careful to only break the previous record by a minute or so to prevent later future minority leaders from having to pull a Corey Booker. You know, pay it forward.

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                #114

                It just occurred to me that now both the Senate and house speaking records are held by black dudes from the Tri-State area.

                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                • MikM Away
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                  https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/07/03/hakeem-jeffries-called-filibuster-a-relic-of-jim-crow-now-using-hours-long-speech-to-delay-big-beautiful-bill/

                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                  • AxtremusA Offline
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                    #116

                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2025/07/03/trump-tax-bill-china-artificial-intelligence-energy/

                    China to win the AI arms race ... the argument goes that because the bill cuts clean/renewable energy subsidies, that will lead to the U.S. developing 344 Gigawatts of new electricity generation capacity over the next ten years, handicapping the American AI industry, ceding the win to China that is taking the "all of the above" approach to energy development and adding new electricity generation capacity like crazy.

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                      @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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